John prev:
"Intellect" is a faulty label > > for the creative symbolic manipulations which guide social patterns. > > The connotations (!) of intellect in our society exclude Art, which > > Pirsig himself accords the higher archy. > > Bo: > Creative symbol manipulation can hardly undermine social value.It's > the "objective attitude that deem social morals subjective that did that. > > John, shaking his head sadly: Bo, Bo, Bo. Books, movies, art. Ummm... How about "On the Road" by Jack Kerouac? A species of creative symbol manipulation that undermined social values and inspired other underminings as well. The list is practically endless as social patterns are scandalized by art, which then inspires new groupings around the art, which then become new social patterns. This seems so obvious that it really makes me wonder how much of the MoQ you understand. Whereas the objective literary critics who objectify society and art, never change anything. All they do is examine and label the de facto changes that the dynamic artist makes to society. Your SOL is really screwing up your insight. > > Bo: > We discuss the MOQ and there must be a best way of understanding > it and that is the one free of SOM's influence and Matt's "eloquence" is > SOM to the hilt > > John: How can there be one best way, when there are so many different points of view? I do believe there is a "best", realizable only in the moment and relative to time and place. Quality is defined only in this experiential moment and any static formulation and encapsulation will fall short of this best in the long run. > Hope Lu can support you for a while. > > Bodvar > > Yes, she can. She landed a cushy job in town and the true fact is that I quit, more than was fired because Soleil Farms refused to guarantee employment past september when the job program funds expire. Thus planning on casting me out with winter coming and the lucrative summer busy time behind. I can make three times the money I was making there for a short summer season, and I've already got multiple small jobs lined up already AND more time and freedom too. So things are good now. Gaetane is bummed, but hey, that's capitalism and the free market baby. Kinda ironic tho, just after a posted that story describing how much they love my work, they throw me off the bus. There is an interesting ascription of value associated with money and when people aren't paying anything for you, deep down they don't value you. That's the prison of SOM. It doesn't understand values. The fact that I do, represents the liberation of the MoQ. Little life lessons demonstrated daily for your amusement. And once again, you're welcome. John Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
