Dave, Snarkish? You've got to be kidding? Who's a bigger smart-ass than you? And yet your response is somewhere between a 5-year-old's and the SNL's Church Lady. More often than not I disagree with Krimel's tendency towards scientific realism, yet I don't need to agree with him to know he runs rings around your blockhead. Stop whining! And I have the disgusting feeling that your definition of a mature grandparent, or great-grandparent for that matter, would be static and boring, which Krimel is not.
Marsha On Jun 17, 2010, at 2:54 PM, david buchanan wrote: > > Marsha said to dmb: > Am I missing something about being a grandparent? I really wish you'd explain > the behavior you expect from a grandparent, and how Krimel is violating your > expectations? Sounds like a static social pattern? Marsha, the > generationally challenged > > > dmb says: > My expectations? Doesn't everyone expect grandparents to be mature? There is > a limit to how young a grandparent can be, see, and older people are supposed > to be more mature than younger people. But I think Krimel's style is childish > and painfully undignified. Go ahead, make a case that the following is not > childish... I also characterized it as "vague" and as "snarky bullshit", so > those descriptions are already taken. But if you have a better word for this, > please do tell. > > > Krimel said to dmb: > ...You make James sound like Pirsig's John the Baptist. It is positively > Orwellian. Do you realize this is what you are saying or does that claim of > independence really sound coherent to you? > > ... Can you spell peer review? > > > ... I never saw any of this as a problem until I started talking to you. > > ... That is obvious but hardly from lack of trying on my part. You keep > talking about Bolte-Taylor. But what you say about her TED talk makes it > obvious you did not understand it at all. > > ... You take this as new age talk when in fact it is derived from the > cognitive neuroscience and information processing. > ... I am speculating here a bit but much of the touchy feely gee whiz part of > talk; feeling connected to the universe that appeals to you so much may have > been the result of seizure or effects on her temporal lobes. > ... In your Oxford talk you mention two books on the neuropsychology of zen. > I really laughed at that since when I pointed this research out to you in the > past you dismissed it reductionist and irrelevant ... > ...Your charge of "reductionism" is just your blanket term to justify not > doing your homework. You remind be of the drunk looking for his car keys > under a street lamp because there is light there to guide his search. > > ... In isn't just your lack of depth in your own field that is a problem, > Dave. It is the narrowness of your vision and your absurd rationalization for > clinging to ignorance. > > ... Whatever side of this debate you choose to be on you will not be taken > seriously if you dismiss the extensive research in the field as > "reductionism" or "SOM". .. Just your typical romantic dismissal. > ... I am pretty sure he would take offense at your attempt to use his name > to justify ignoring the literature on neuroscience. ... James would not > agree with your position either ... > > ... few in the field take Freud's explanations particularly seriously anymore > and haven't for decades. I think that means you should study him more. > > ... Your idiosyncratic reaction to the findings of pretty much everyone who > has considered to matter for the past 50 years on the other hand might best > be explained by a Freudian although I would suggest medication. > > ... you seem genetically incapable of straying outside your comfort zone. But > to paint this "romanticism" as somehow moral or philosophically justifiable > is just a form of self delusion. > > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
