Hi Ham [DMB] before: > > > ... The MOQ makes that cut as the first move in a larger system > > > but that system also says that such intellectual divisions are > > > always secondary to the whole circle.
[Bo] comments: > > Not so glib young man! It's no intellectual division, but THE > > QUALITY ordering. And this ordering is not secondary to anything. > > Lest you have - like Pirsig - to postulate another "intellectual" > > Quality/MOQ division that must be countered by a still higher > > ..ad infinitum. Come to your senses Dave. Ham chimes in: > The idea that something called Quality "orders up" the > differentiated system that constitutes our reality is a fallacious > concept that insults human intelligence. The thinking is run on our biological computer - intelligence called - but now fed the MOQ program. All this is so matter-of-course that I don't bother with mentioning it > If this were true, there would be no need for experience or the > intellect that you prize so highly. Q-intellect is a static level with its own "program" - the S/O one - and has nothing to do with intelligence. > David is right that divisions are always secondary to the whole. Your agreeing with DMB says a lot. Thank you! But seriously and for the umpteenth time, the MOQ says DQ is "the whole" and that SQ is secondary. Are you all completely deaf? > The primary division is not the universe as experienced but the > separation of value-sensibility (awareness) from the "absolute > whole" (Essence or DQ). Well haven't you just turned the separation screw to the same point on a higher plane? Just like Pirsig did with the Quality/MOQ one? An absolute anything is 1) impossible (if pointing to it destroys it 2) Usless until an internal ordering. Let's stop here Bodvar Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
