Mary said to dmb:
I find this such an extraordinarily strange post.  Mainly because I have no 
idea who you believe yourself to be arguing with, or what, in fact, you are 
arguing about. ... If you believe we _do not_ agree with the quotes, then you 
fail to understand what we have been saying all along, and if you believe we 
_do_ agree with them, then what was the purpose of presenting them couched in 
terms that imply that in some manner we should be 'chastened'?  As I said, this 
post of yours is bizarre.


dmb said:

It's funny. I was trying to explain that I get frustrated when my explanations 
have no effect and your response to that shows that my explanations have no 
effect. Please imagine that I screaming and pulling my hair out. It's 
frustrating because the quotes I posted contradict Bo's equation. They're 
suppose to help you see that you have the wrong idea about "SOM" and 
"intellect".


I'm SHOWING you that other philosophers reject subject-object metaphysics. By 
taking a look at some of their conversations we can see more exactly what it 
is, exactly, that is being rejected. Those quotes should have persuaded you 
that SOM is not what you think it is. See, if you understand what SOM is, then 
you will no longer be able to believe that it is equal to the intellectual 
level. When you see what the actual problem is, then Bo's equation will lose 
all it's appeal. Then you'll see that the whole idea is not even worthy of 
debate. I hope that someday you'll look back at these opinions, disagree with 
your former self and feel proud that you've grown.                              
           
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