Hello everyone On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 8:42 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > On 8 Jul 2010 at 19:35, Dan Glover wrote: > >> Hello everyone >> >> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 11:21 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Hi All, >> > >> > At the risk of beating a dead horse and getting banned I offer the >> > following >> > Pirsig quote as further evidence that including the MOQ in the intellectual >> > level doesn't make sense. >> > >> > "The Metaphysics of Quality resolves the relationship between intellect and >> > society, subject and object, mind and matter, by embedding all of them in a >> > larger system of understanding. Objects are inorganic and biological >> > values; >> > subjects are social and intellectual values." (Lila, 24) >> > >> > Perhaps someone can explain, if the MOQ is a set of subjective intellectual >> > values how it can see itself as a set of subjective system of values -- >> > the >> > problem an eye seeing itself. >> >> Dan: >> If my eye looks in a mirror it sees my eye. This is a good metaphor to >> understand the solution to your problem, don't you think so, Platt? > > [Platt] > Except Pirsig warned us that mirrors can distort reality. "But it was an > assertion of the Metaphysics of Quality that there exists a reality beyond all > these social mirrors. That he had explored. In fact there are two levels of > reality beyond these mirrors: an intellectual reality and beyond that, a > Dynamic reality." (Lila, 20) So no. I don't think a mirror is a good metaphor > to solve the problem. .
Dan: I was hoping you'd pick up on the MOQ being an intellectual system of understanding reality and not reality itself as indicative of a mirror through which we construct reality. The intellect looks back on itself, so to speak, like a mirror. That is how it can see itself. I suspect RMP is using his mirror metaphor in a different but still accurate manner. This, my friend, is where multiple truths come in... not in low quality statements. Thank you, Dan Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
