Since the theory is "nothing is real"
test that theory by standing in traffic
or jumping off a building.

see what happens

please


 


----- Original Message ----
From: Magnus Berg <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 7:24:25 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] inorganic patterns & thinking

On 2010-07-19 11:17, MarshaV wrote:
> Sight at its very least is not about identified objects, only form and
> color.  But one can experience sight sans even form and color too.
> It is ALL conceived.  It's useful and I wouldn't throw away any but the
> arrogance of thinking the "real" has been realized.

Arrogance is there in SOM, yes, because in SOM, there's no other relationship 
between the perceived object in your head and the object observed.

But in MoQ, we know that there *is* a direct dependency from our internal image 
of the object, to the reality of the object via the levels. I'm not saying that 
your brain is supported by *that* stone, but I'm saying that your brain is 
supported by inorganic patterns just *like* a stone.

So, in SOM, ALL is conceived. But in MoQ, where we have the level dependency 
and 
know that our internal "minds" are supported by inorganic patterns, we can know 
that there are inorganic patterns. From there, I don't think it's arrogant 
anymore to give the stone a status of real.

    Magnus
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