On Jul 25, 2010, at 4:59 PM, MarshaV wrote: > > > >>>> 1. The "patterns that identify it" are the formulas we use to >>>> calculate the gravitational force, i.e. F=g*m (or F=G*m1*m2/r^2) >>>> using Newton's version. >>>> >>>> 2. The "force" is what's stopping you from banging your head in the >>>> ceiling if you jump upwards indoors. >>>> >>>> The two are different. That's what the levels are all about. To be >>>> able to tell things like these apart. They are not ghosts anymore >>>> as Phaedrus thought in ZMM, they are different types/levels of >>>> patterns. >>> >>> Neither are wrong, but what would this force be without those >>> patterns? Unknown. >> >> Without 1 it would be unknown, but not unreal. That's a heck of a difference. > > How could something that is unknown be real in any sense of the word? > How would it be judged real in any sense of the word? You will need to > explain your logic.
Oh, maybe it is that if it is unknown, it would not exist to be labeled either real OR unreal??? ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
