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On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 1:06 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks John... > > > On Jul 19, 2010, at 3:56 PM, John Carl wrote: > > > I agree completely, Marsha. > > > > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 12:16 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> You can be such a patronizing dunderhead. > > > > > > I can't lick my balls but I can be a patronizing dunderhead. > > > > The dunderhead part I can't change. But the patronizing part I certainly > > can. What is my alternative? A matronizing dunderhead? > > > > Maybe I'll give it a shot. Show me how. > > > > I didn't throw away my father's > >> bible, I threw away the bible and the father dwelling within it. > >> > >> > > I believe throwing away the bible to be a high quality experience in the > > quest for self-realization and have done it myself. > > > > I've also found picking it up again to have high value as well. > Especially > > with the right attitude, and by the "right attitude" I don't mean > anything > > esoteric or mystic. I mean simply, intellectually and comparatively, in > the > > correct context of an understanding of the ultimate metaphysical > > underpinnings of the world which allows us to pick up any tome, any > teaching > > and ask, "is it good?" > > > > As opposed to the ways of modern religious indoctrination and control, > which > > I also abhor. > > > > Hmmmm... Matronizing dunderhead.. I actually might try that. > > > > John > > > > > > > > > >> > >> Marsha > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> > >>> But then, that's me. > >>> > >>> > >>> yours as usual, > >>> > >>> > >>> John > >>> > >>> > >>> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 10:47 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> John, > >>>> > >>>> Too much like whenever and whatever you, John, say it is... Sure, > >> you're > >>>> cute, but so what? I most certainly can refute Tom Robbins. I threw > my > >>>> bloody bible (father and all) into the the garbage and heaped on > coffee > >>>> grounds and egg shells. > >>>> > >>>> With care, > >>>> > >>>> Marsha > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Jul 19, 2010, at 1:34 PM, John Carl wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> You bet greed and materialism evolved for reasons, Marsha. But were > >> they > >>>>> good reasons? Or bad reasons? > >>>>> > >>>>> The age old question, asked of Dorothy by the munchkins, "Are you a > >> good > >>>>> witch? Or a bad witch?" > >>>>> > >>>>> Applying the question to reason itself, I'd say that Reason has > >>>> definitely > >>>>> been a good thing. It's freed women, men and children from the > >>>> oppressions > >>>>> of nature, allowing humanity to blanket the earth with comfortable > >>>>> fecundity. > >>>>> > >>>>> Unfortunately, what men, women and children have done with their > >> freedom > >>>> is > >>>>> another story entirely. > >>>>> > >>>>> Reason has its limits, that aren't reason's fault. > >>>>> > >>>>> Anymore than its my hammer's fault that it's not an open-end 7/16 > inch > >>>>> wrench. > >>>>> > >>>>> And I still think things like to be realized, and that's why there's > >>>>> intellect. > >>>>> > >>>>> Water invented man, so it could walk around and tell stories. > >>>>> > >>>>> You can't refute Tom Robbins, > >>>>> > >>>>> Take care, > >>>>> > >>>>> John > >>>>> > >>>>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 11:51 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Jul 19, 2010, at 1:41 AM, John Carl wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Well yes. But its a relationship created by the thinking. Not > >>>>>> naturally > >>>>>>> arising just because granite, gravity and protons are "there". > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> In other words, consciousness evolved for a reason. Or reason > >> evolved > >>>>>> for a > >>>>>>> reason, and that reason is that gravity, protons and granite like > to > >> be > >>>>>>> realized. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> John, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Reason evolved for a reason? Either it did or it didn't. Oh > goodie, > >>>> than > >>>>>> greed > >>>>>> and Materialism evolved for a reason. Long live Plato and > >> Aristotle!!! > >>>>>> Down > >>>>>> with all women!!! Down with passion and heart!!! (sarcastically > >>>> written) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Or maybe reason evolved with a twenty-five-hundred year-old > >> distortion, > >>>> a > >>>>>> masculine dis-ease, so pleased is he with his own ability to > destroy. > >>>>>> Yes, I _think_ that is more likely. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Marsha > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> so make their day. Think about them and fulfill their (and your) > >>>>>> destiny. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Happy thinking, dear Marsha, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 2:13 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Greetings, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Do lead, granite, gravity and protons, all as patterns, have a > >>>>>> relationship > >>>>>>>> with > >>>>>>>> thinking/thoughts/consciousness? Do all patterns from all levels > >> have > >>>> a > >>>>>>>> relationship with thinking/thoughts/consciousness? I do not mean > to > >>>>>>>> insinuate > >>>>>>>> that they are just ideas, but that they have a relationship with > >>>>>> thinking. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Marsha > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ___ > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list > >>>>>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > >>>>>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > >>>>>>>> Archives: > >>>>>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > >>>>>>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list > >>>>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > >>>>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > >>>>>>> Archives: > >>>>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > >>>>>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ___ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list > >>>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > >>>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > >>>>>> Archives: > >>>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > >>>>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > >>>>>> > >>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list > >>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > >>>>> Archives: > >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > >>>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ___ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list > >>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > >>>> Archives: > >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > >>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > >>>> > >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list > >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > >>> Archives: > >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> > >> > >> Moq_Discuss mailing list > >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > >> Archives: > >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > >> > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
