Yes, Marsha, I understand you - I can see problems with the words (all words in fact) I use zillions of scare quotes etc ...
But having meditated what word do you suggest I /we use in the next email or are we to meditate INSTEAD OF communicate in words. Ian On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 8:59 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Jul 21, 2010, at 3:53 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote: > >> Just using the accepted word - "manipulation of symbols" - Marsha > > whatever... > > >> >> The point of the question (to Boristotlists or SIMians) is say it in your >> words. >> What these subjects and objects are .... words in sentences ? > > Self and objects are a case of mistaken identity. > > >> variables in equations ? representing concepts ? If you don't like the >> language - stop complaining and make a positive suggestion. > > The word 'held' also presumes someone to hold subjects and objects. > Really, you should try meditation and see for yourself. > > > Marsha > > >> Ian >> >> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 8:28 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> On Jul 21, 2010, at 2:39 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> In your words - without resorting to the word mind - how are these >>>> subjects and objects held, manipulated, in intellect ? >>>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Ian, >>> >>> Seems that your question assumes a manipulator. Maybe an intellect can be >>> considered a collection of favored intellectual patterns? Favored by an >>> individual or community. >>> >>> >>> Marsha >>> >>> ___ >>> >>> >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
