[dmb] "...he [James] meant that subjects and objects are not the starting points of experience. Subjects and objects are secondary. They are CONCEPTS derived from something more fundamental which he described as 'the immediate flux of life' ... James had condensed this description to a single sentence: 'There must always be a discrepancy between CONCEPTS and reality, because the former are STATIC and discontinuous while the latter is dynamic and flowing.' Here James had chosen exactly the same words Phaedrus had used for the basic subdivision of the MOQ. ...Value, the pragmatic test of truth, is also the primary empirical experience. The MOQ says pure experience is value. ...Value is at the very front of the empirical procession."
[Krimel] As our resident James scholar I wonder if you could supply the reference for this quote of James. I don't find it. There is a great deal of similar language in Some Problems where James is clear that concepts and our sense of "reality" come from perception. In fact James' account of what Pirsig calls "the immediate flux of life" is "perception". Would you have a problem equating the two? Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
