Hi Platt

I think your reply clarifies your meaning quite well. In your attempt to validate Bo's version of the MoQ you are continuing the mangling of Robert Pirsigs work. You appear to be proposing a further static level beyond the intellectual level in order to obviate the threat of the intellect as the highest static good. It's the Intellectual level as the highest static good that seems to be what causes you and the other SIMians to be fearful. However, the MoQ states quite clearly that there are 4 static levels and DQ - that's it:

From Lila Chapter 12
"In this plain of understanding static patterns of value are divided into four systems: inorganic patterns, biological patterns, social patterns and intellectual patterns. They are exhaustive. That’s all there are. If you construct an encyclopedia of four topics—Inorganic, Biological, Social and Intellectual—nothing is left out. No “thing,” that is. Only Dynamic Quality, which cannot be described in any encyclopedia, is absent."

So what you're proposing has little to do with the MoQ. The MoQ doesn't have a problem with seeing itself as an Intellectual pattern - you have that problem and that fear. And Bo's latest tirade on another thread re: academia bears this out well.

Horse

On 26/07/2010 20:00, [email protected] wrote:

On 26 Jul 2010 at 18:57, Horse wrote:

   Hmmm! Not sure that makes sense as subset and subordinate don't equate
to each other.
Did you actually mean to say:
"By making the Intellectual level subordinate to the MOQ, thereby
avoiding the disharmony of recursion"?

Works either way for me. Or, I could have said, " By making the intellectual a
subtopic of the MOQ, thereby avoiding the disharmony of recursion. Or, I could
have said, "By making the intellectual level a smaller box contained within the
the larger box of MOQ, thereby avoiding the disharmony of recursion. Or I could
have said, By making the intellectual a subsidiary of the MOQ, thereby avoiding
the disharmony of recursion. Or I could have said  . . .  well, I hope these
few alternatives help clarify my meaning.


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