On Jul 27, 2010, at 1:43 AM, MarshaV wrote:

> 
> On Jul 26, 2010, at 1:37 PM, david buchanan wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Marsha asked how patterns and objects differ and then responded to the 
>> explanation:
>> 
>> I asked what YOU thought the difference was between patterns and objects. 
>> This first paragraph ...does not address the question. Analogues?  How does 
>> this address the question I asked? How does this address a comparison 
>> between patterns and objects? In this paragraph who is "he says", and how 
>> does it address the difference between patterns and objects. Patterns or 
>> objects? I do not notice any reference to patterns or objects. Not reference 
>> to patterns or objects here either. Patterns?  Objects?  Intellectual 
>> competence? And how does this beautiful pronouncement address the difference 
>> between patterns and objects? And the difference between independent objects 
>> and static patterns of value is addressed here how? This doesn't address the 
>> difference between objects and patterns. So the question (the difference 
>> between objects and patterns)  is a question  you haven't had much time to 
>> investigate? 
>> 
>> 
>> dmb concluded his explanation:
>> And that's how patterns are different from things.  See?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha replied:
>> Got it.
>> 
>> 
>> dmb says:
>> 
>> The whole post was about the difference between patterns and things. "He" is 
>> Robert Pirsig, of course. 
>> 
>> All of your responses are questions that indicate zero comprehension of the 
>> explanation so I take your final comment as sarcasm. What is it you don't 
>> get? Are you even trying to understand? You did ask the question as if you 
>> really wanted to know, or so it seemed to me. But now it seems like you're 
>> just jerking me around. Again. 
>> 
>> I don't know what kind of game you think you're playing but your thoughtless 
>> response only makes you look like an incorrigible child. If you don't really 
>> want an answer, then why even ask? Are you just looking for the opportunity 
>> to show us all what 0% reading comprehension looks like, or what? 
> 
> 
> Marsha:
> I thought I had asked a direct question, but I know how difficult 
> that can be because there are metaphysical subtleties that are 
> difficult to express in words.  I'll accept your answer to be 
> 'not this, not that'.  That is an point-of-view I can even applaud.    


Marsha:
But maybe I've been too generous.  Dave, maybe you should find 
out what the word 'object' as a 'thing-in-itself', means.  And you might 
want to investigate what the meaning of 'pattern' within the MoQ.  
And then you might be able to meaningfully suggest a difference 
between the two.



 
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