[Magnus]
Let me ask you this then. *If* the levels were discrete and dependent,
would you agree that the Descarte statement would be changed into what I
said yesterday?
[Krimel]
Levels are conceptual structure much like what Piaget and other cognitive
psychologists call schema. These are structures of thought that help us
organize and interpret the information we as sentient beings are bathed in.
As noted above I think these conceptual structures are fractal and as Piaget
said we construct them by assimilating new information that fits into them
or accommodating them to handle new data that doesn't fit. (the platypus is
a classic example of accommodation) These conceptual schema are illusions.
They are particular ways that we have of organizing the world. The
outstanding quality of human beings is our ability to construct these schema
and to shift between and among them. Which is to say our ability to take
different points of view.
You sound like Bo, just watching stuff from a human perspective and not
recognizing that reality works just fine without us.
You need to look closer at the reality around us. Just because you can't
see the borders doesn't mean they don't exist. I'm trying to explain it
to you, but you just say, "no", and stick your head into to the sand.
[Magnus]
I think (I (subject), experience the ideas (object) in my brain)
therefore I exist in the same stack in which my physical brain resides.
Because ideas are intellectual patterns and all patterns are dependent
on lower level patterns.
[Krimel]
No. The cogito only provides certainty as to your own existence. It tells
you nothing about the nature of that existence nor about the existence of
anything else. It doesn't tell you anything about a brain or about levels or
patterns.
That wasn't a reply to my question. It was a reply to the question:
What does Descarte's quote tell *you*?
Care to try again? The questions started with *If* the levels were...
see above.
Magnus
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