[Craig] Pirsig says the choice of description is scientifically irrelevant. So it doesn't follow that if it's not scientifically one, then it's the other.
[Krimel] But it does make a difference and a very big one. To say that iron filing "prefer" proximity to magnet makes them causal agents. To make this work you have to strip the word "preference" of a host of connotated meanings. When you throw these implied meanings out, so the preference and cause are equivalent, you have removed all of the distinctions that make the substitution worthwhile in the first place. The bigger problem is those extra meanings never really go away and speaking of inorganic preference is never really equivalent to causation as Pirsig might wish. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
