Krimel

You've been trying to push this ... 3 times now, but, well...

1. Shit Happens.

That's right, can't argue with that.

2. Quality is Chaos

Nope. Quality is reality.

3. Quality (Chaos) has two aspects DQ (uncertainty) SQ (certainty)

Well, from a human perspective, from which you see the world, that's pretty correct. But if you step out into the real world, it's more like being and becoming.

4. Value (meaning) is reduction of uncertainty.
    (That is, meaning results from and results in,
    our ability to create and manipulate static quality)

Meaning is a mapping from an intellectual pattern to another pattern. But since you're in the human perspective, everything you see is transformed into an intellectual pattern and you don't acknowledge the reality of the original experience that created that intellectual pattern. So, to you, value and meaning becomes entangled. But they are really not.

5. Biological organisms are the meaning (SQ) that evolution
    derives from chaos.

I didn't know you were religious?

No, 5 is just a consequence of 1.

6. As such organisms, we create SQ from the DQ around us or to use
    James' terms, we derive concepts from experience

We not only derive concepts, we also *experience*. Those experiences are still real, even before we conceptualize them. SQ patterns exist outside our concepts of them.

        Magnus




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