On Aug 22, 2010, at 3:49 AM, Magnus Berg wrote: > Craig > > On 2010-08-22 03:46, [email protected] wrote: >> [Magnus] >>> We not only derive concepts, we also *experience*. >>> Those experiences are still real, even before we conceptualize them. >>> SQ patterns exist outside our concepts of them. >> >> >> . >> IMHO this is the fundamental controversy in the MD: >> "the MoQ creates reality" or "we create SQ" or spovs are ideas >> vs. >> "SQ patterns exist outside our concepts of them" > > Agreement! Thanks for not pulling out the SOM rabbit as many others do. > Respect.
Marsha: SOM is a major issue within RMP's rhetoric; why should you want to avoid it? Its subject/object orientation is in direct opposition to the MoQ's value orientation. What could possibly be your objection? That it is too difficult to confront? That it is too difficult to resolve? ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
