Andre, Whew! This thread got real long, I'm noticing. So hope you don't mind being brought back to the topic at hand.
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Andre Broersen <[email protected]>wrote: > John to Andre: > > > Not synonomous Andre, but if you really don't care, you certainly won't > lust. > > Andre: > I will not be tempted to make real nasty comments John but some patterns in > this universe don't give a fuck and fuck like hell... to express/continue > their egotistical drive to fuck the rest!! I think they do not care about > shit, only about confirming and enlarging their own ego...which is > self-defeating of course. > > I associate 'lust', the biological drive, with give me!, give me!. > > Perhaps I misunderstand you? John: I think you misunderstand the self that is created in the "me" part of the "give me, give me". I think self-realization or knowing can only happen through a process. I'm with James and Royce here, consciousness (knowing self) certainly isn't an entity and probably not a biological entity. It's a socially created entity-as-process. Tha's my thesis and I'm stickin' to it. The "give me" you quote, illustrating "lust" stems from an insecurity - a fear. IF the self was always fed exactly what it biologically needed, it would never formulate the pattern of lust. Only in weaning is desire realized. Only in the process of nursing/weaning, is a self brought to realization. That's my thesis and I'm sticking to it. Unless I find a better argument against. John Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
