On Aug 23, 2010, at 5:34 AM, Magnus Berg wrote: > On 2010-08-22 17:34, MarshaV wrote:
>> Marsha: >> The fact that static patterns of value are all that is conceptualized, >> does not mean that a pattern is a concept. > > Magnus: > Right, did I say something differently? Wouldn't you want to say that to > Andre really? He was the one who said that mother-instinct and self-sacrifice > was concepts. Since you neglected to repost what you wrote, hard for me to answer your first question. As far as Andre's statements, also missing, mother-instinct and self-sacrifice are patterns conceptualized. I'm guessing that is what he meant. > >> Marsha: >> A pattern exists across >> many individuals and across many generations of time. To me, >> they are ever-changing, relative and impermanent. >> >> Do you see a problem with this? > > Magnus: > Just that you just said two quite contradictory statements. First you say > they do exist across individuals and generations, then you say they change. > How do you know they are the same patterns? I meant that patterns are not individual, bounded, discrete, independent, entities. To repeat patterns exist across many individuals and across many generations of of time. Patterns are ever-changing, relative and impermanent. Ever-changing, relative and impermanent does not mean without similarity. Experiences can be very different and still hang together as similar to other experiences. The repetition and similarity create the pattern, yes? ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
