On Aug 27, 2010, at 2:46 PM, David Thomas wrote:
> On 8/27/10 1:23 PM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hello Dave T,
>>
>> Adrie had written:
>> Hence the reason why som cannot be the perfect umbrella for the
>> intellectual
>> level?
>>
>> This doesn't sound like simply comparing and contrasting. It sounds like a
>> final judgement.
>>
> And how did I respond?
>
>> [Dave before]
>> To some degree RMP, and maybe all of science, over stigmatizes SOM. Given
>> how little was known about the workings of the brain and its relationship to
>> the body, the intuition to make this distinction has led to significant
>> progress in many areas of science. So the theory is not quite perfect, shit
>> none of them every are. Usefulness is about as good as we get.
>
> Dave:
> If you look at the history of philosophy at any point in time, with any
> particular philosopher or school, they were more WRONG than right. But out
> of this overtime better and better understanding of reality has evolved to
> the benefit of all. I understand you may think I spend all my time finding
> ways to bad mouth RMP. But guess what? I wouldn't be to the point that I
> could criticize him without him leading me into the topic in the first place
> and showing me a map. For someone with such a negative view of static
> patterns your fixation with Pirsig's and Bo's is hard to fathom.
Marsha:
I do not have a negative view of static patterns. I do, though, recognize them
as patterns, conventional, and not some independent "reality."
And as I indicated, my post was directed at Adrie's comment.
Adrie had written:
Hence the reason why som cannot be the perfect umbrella for the
intellectual
level?
----
If you are comparing and contrasting Chalmers' ideas against RMP's
concerning consciousness, what are you using as RMP's ideas; he's
said very little directly?
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