Ok I think I get it You are appealing to a dynamic unpatterned intellect
but if all thinking, as you suggest when you say that "reification is how the brain works" then there is no escape from it. transcendance is literally impossible.(while alive) or being coherent in any kind of fashion. because it would require one to cease using the brain. to then escape SOM we must revert to brainlessness. But to assert this you must constantly contradict yourself intellectually. the only way to a quality intellect is to stop using your brain become mindless I'd say a good portion of the world is already on that track. ----- Original Message ---- From: MarshaV <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, September 12, 2010 5:07:42 AM Subject: Re: [MD] Intellectual Level Greetings, Understanding that that the way we deal with experience is: "... we 'seek and find, or project, a simplifying pattern to approximate every complex field ... by lumping (ignoring some distinctions as negligible) and by splitting (ignoring some relations as negligible). Both ... create discreet entities useful for manipulating, predicting and controlling ... [but] may impose ad hoc boundaries on what are actually densely interconnected systems and then grant autonomous existence to the segments' (p. 108). Even the contents of our own consciousness have to be dealt with in this way, resulting in our array of fragmented self-concepts, and we just put up with the anomalies that arise. Buddhism, he explains, agrees that discovering entities is conventionally indispensable, but attachment and aggression arise through reifying them, which violates the principle that all things are interdependent, and all entities are conditional approximations." My understanding of the Intellectual Level as SOM is: While the MoQ represents Quality(unpatterned experience/patterned experience.) Intellectual Static Patterns of Value (experiences) are reified concepts and the rules for their rational analysis and manipulation. Intellectual patterns process from a subject/object conceptual framework creating false boundaries that give the illusion of independence as a “thing” or an “object of analysis.” The fourth level is a formalized subject/object level (SOM), where the paramount demand is for rational, objective knowledge, which is free from the corruption of any subjectivity. Marsha ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
