I think your analysis is right on, Steve. Leonard Mlodinow, a science journalist who knows Hawkin has published a best-selling book on his theories of reality called "The Grand Design." I heard him interviewed on Coast-to-Coast AM last night and thought you might like to review this summary of the discussion prepared by the show's host George Noory.
"Caltech physicist Leonard Mlodinow discussed his current work with Hawking on the grand design of the universe and two central questions-- where does the universe come from, and why are the laws of nature what they are? Hawking's theories and the latest research in physics were used to answer those questions. While the conditions for life are just right on Earth, Mlodinow noted that we're looking backwards at the situation-- whatever conditions it took for us to get here, have already happened. "The notion of the multiverse (many universes each with their own physical laws) is a consequence of Hawking's theory of cosmology, said Mlodinow. These various universes arose from nothing, but we now understand from quantum theory that the state of nothingness is actually very unstable, and that "things are always coming and going from nothingness," he explained. Hawking's picture of the universe incorporates three theories: ". A 'no boundary' condition in which time becomes a dimension that looks like space. . M theory-- an extension of string theory dealing with forces like gravity. . Top Down Cosmology-- a new quantum approach that suggests the cosmos has many different simultaneous histories. "Mlodinow also reviewed the Big Bang theory of the origin of the universe, and the search at the Large Hadron Collider for the theoretical Higgs boson particle. Interestingly, Hawking has predicted that the Higgs particle will not be found." For all his alleged brilliance, Hawkin apparently believes the universe (or "multiverse") was created from nothing, despite its 'Grand Design'. When Mlodinow was asked several times if he (and Hawkin) believed there was a Creator of the Grand Design, he dismissed the question as "one way of thinking," for the unsophisticated. His reaction was the same when asked if he thought life had any purpose. In short, the Hawkin-Mlodinow team is promoting the view that conscious life and the ordered physical universe are mere happenstances that arose from the chaos of nothingness. They are unwilling to even speculate on a principle to explain existential reality. For the life of me, I can't fathom a writer choosing the title "The Grand Design" if he doesn't acknowledge a Designer. (But perhaps the Pirsigians here view it differently.) Anyway, it provided a fascinating look into the scientific mindset. comment Adrie ----------------------- according to me , the theory of the multiverse originates from a completely unknown author/philosopher called WILLIAM JAMES AROUND 1895, but i repeat, the man is hardly known or noticed ever. >From Wikipedia, the free idiotpedia The multiverse (or meta-universe, metaverse) is the hypothetical set of multiple possible universes (including the one unique universe we are pretty sure we consistently inhabit) that together comprise everything that physically exists: the entirety of space and time, all forms of matter, energy and momentum, and the physical laws and constants that govern them. The term was coined in 1895 by the American philosopher and psychologist William James.[1] The various universes within the multiverse are sometimes called parallel universes. The structure of the multiverse, the nature of each universe within it and the relationship between the various constituent universes, depend on the specific multiverse hypothesis considered. Multiverses have been hypothesized in cosmology, physics, astronomy, philosophy, transpersonal psychology and fiction, particularly in science fiction and fantasy. In these contexts, parallel universes are also called "alternative universes", "quantum universes", "interpenetrating dimensions", "parallel dimensions", "parallel worlds", "alternative realities", and "alternative timelines", among others. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse TRY TO FIND WILLIAM JAMES... I DO NOT THINK THIS WILL BE SO DIFFICULT AT ALL THE SQUIRREL IS NOT HIDING AROUND A TREE THIS TIME. The Squirrel was not a hidden tip, it was all over the place at all times. Now allow me some remarks. the text you stole from the internet, originates from the hand of Kate Mc Alpine, and the 23 year old chicka works at cern(lhc) she has a habbit of stealing content on the internet, rephrasing it in her own words and relaying it to the press , according to the "FAKE IT UNTIL YOU MAKE IT" principle, you took it by cut copy and paste, rephrased it in some of your own distorted insights according to "THE FAKE IT UNTIL YOU MAKE IT PRINCIPLE", and thinking nobody will ever know, problem is of course , a lie nested within other lies. You should really check your sources better , Before stealing from thiefs and raping their stolen products into a happenstance. Exactly how the fuck can you fuck it up that mach, as the only intelligent cristian thinker on the forum? (besides DMB) I was laying it out on the line all the time, the squiireltips.....William James, the hunter, kept on repeating it... the multiversum deviates from the many worldsinterpretation, but the link was a tip towards william James......i kept on feeding it while you were making your article Ham... How the fuck does he do that?.....happenstances originating from nottingness. (joke) Honestly, very dissapointing , stealing is a sin, raping is a sin,lying is a sin, what a sinner you are.what a fraude... This is only one of the bugs, i can kill all others to, the article is full of it. do i have to go on? greetz, Adrie 2010/9/16 Ham Priday <[email protected]> > > On 15 Sep 2010, at 19:51, Steven Peterson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi John, Horse, Marsha, >> >> I hesitate to conclude that Hawking is a moron since there is so much >> evidence to the contrary. >> >> What I hope he means by "philosophy is dead" is that philosophy as >> Plato's project of getting beyond appearances to get us in touch with >> reality as it really is has run its course and outlived its >> usefulness. If so, I think Pirsig and any pragmatist would agree. On >> the other hand, what I suspect he does mean is that science has proven >> itself to be the one true way of getting us in touch with reality as >> it really is. I suspect that he thinks scientific descriptions have >> some privileged status over other sorts of descriptions. ... >> > > I think your analysis is right on, Steve. Leonard Mlodinow, a science > journalist who knows Hawkin has published a best-selling book on his > theories of reality called "The Grand Design." I heard him interviewed on > Coast-to-Coast AM last night and thought you might like to review this > summary of the discussion prepared by the show's host George Noory. > > "Caltech physicist Leonard Mlodinow discussed his current work with Hawking > on the grand design of the universe and two central questions-- where does > the universe come from, and why are the laws of nature what they are? > Hawking's theories and the latest research in physics were used to answer > those questions. While the conditions for life are just right on Earth, > Mlodinow noted that we're looking backwards at the situation-- whatever > conditions it took for us to get here, have already happened. > > "The notion of the multiverse (many universes each with their own physical > laws) is a consequence of Hawking's theory of cosmology, said Mlodinow. > These various universes arose from nothing, but we now understand from > quantum theory that the state of nothingness is actually very unstable, and > that "things are always coming and going from nothingness," he explained. > Hawking's picture of the universe incorporates three theories: > > ". A 'no boundary' condition in which time becomes a dimension that looks > like space. > . M theory-- an extension of string theory dealing with forces like > gravity. > . Top Down Cosmology-- a new quantum approach that suggests the cosmos has > many different simultaneous histories. > > "Mlodinow also reviewed the Big Bang theory of the origin of the universe, > and the search at the Large Hadron Collider for the theoretical Higgs boson > particle. Interestingly, Hawking has predicted that the Higgs particle will > not be found." > > For all his alleged brilliance, Hawkin apparently believes the universe (or > "multiverse") was created from nothing, despite its 'Grand Design'. When > Mlodinow was asked several times if he (and Hawkin) believed there was a > Creator of the Grand Design, he dismissed the question as "one way of > thinking," for the unsophisticated. His reaction was the same when asked if > he thought life had any purpose. > > In short, the Hawkin-Mlodinow team is promoting the view that conscious > life and the ordered physical universe are mere happenstances that arose > from the chaos of nothingness. They are unwilling to even speculate on a > principle to explain existential reality. For the life of me, I can't > fathom a writer choosing the title "The Grand Design" if he doesn't > acknowledge a Designer. (But perhaps the Pirsigians here view it > differently.) > > Anyway, it provided a fascinating look into the scientific mindset. > > Best regards, > Ham > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > -- parser Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
