BurpS !! party- Beer! 2010/9/17 ADRIE KINTZIGER <[email protected]>
> Besides DMB was a joke Dave. > > 2010/9/17 ADRIE KINTZIGER <[email protected]> > > I think your analysis is right on, Steve. Leonard Mlodinow, a science >> journalist who knows Hawkin has published a best-selling book on his >> theories of reality called "The Grand Design." I heard him interviewed on >> Coast-to-Coast AM last night and thought you might like to review this >> summary of the discussion prepared by the show's host George Noory. >> >> "Caltech physicist Leonard Mlodinow discussed his current work with >> Hawking on the grand design of the universe and two central questions-- >> where does the universe come from, and why are the laws of nature what they >> are? Hawking's theories and the latest research in physics were used to >> answer those questions. While the conditions for life are just right on >> Earth, Mlodinow noted that we're looking backwards at the situation-- >> whatever conditions it took for us to get here, have already happened. >> >> "The notion of the multiverse (many universes each with their own physical >> laws) is a consequence of Hawking's theory of cosmology, said Mlodinow. >> These various universes arose from nothing, but we now understand from >> quantum theory that the state of nothingness is actually very unstable, and >> that "things are always coming and going from nothingness," he explained. >> Hawking's picture of the universe incorporates three theories: >> >> ". A 'no boundary' condition in which time becomes a dimension that looks >> like space. >> . M theory-- an extension of string theory dealing with forces like >> gravity. >> . Top Down Cosmology-- a new quantum approach that suggests the cosmos has >> many different simultaneous histories. >> >> "Mlodinow also reviewed the Big Bang theory of the origin of the universe, >> and the search at the Large Hadron Collider for the theoretical Higgs boson >> particle. Interestingly, Hawking has predicted that the Higgs particle will >> not be found." >> >> For all his alleged brilliance, Hawkin apparently believes the universe >> (or "multiverse") was created from nothing, despite its 'Grand Design'. >> When Mlodinow was asked several times if he (and Hawkin) believed there was >> a Creator of the Grand Design, he dismissed the question as "one way of >> thinking," for the unsophisticated. His reaction was the same when asked if >> he thought life had any purpose. >> >> In short, the Hawkin-Mlodinow team is promoting the view that conscious >> life and the ordered physical universe are mere happenstances that arose >> from the chaos of nothingness. They are unwilling to even speculate on a >> principle to explain existential reality. For the life of me, I can't >> fathom a writer choosing the title "The Grand Design" if he doesn't >> acknowledge a Designer. (But perhaps the Pirsigians here view it >> differently.) >> >> Anyway, it provided a fascinating look into the scientific mindset. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comment Adrie >> ----------------------- >> >> according to me , the theory of the multiverse originates from a >> completely unknown author/philosopher called WILLIAM JAMES >> AROUND 1895, but i repeat, the man is hardly known or noticed ever. >> >> From Wikipedia, the free idiotpedia >> >> The multiverse (or meta-universe, metaverse) is the hypothetical >> >> set of multiple possible universes (including the one unique >> >> universe we are pretty sure we consistently inhabit) that together >> >> comprise everything that physically exists: the entirety of space >> >> and time, all forms of matter, energy and momentum, and the >> >> physical laws and constants that govern them. The term was coined >> >> in 1895 by the American philosopher and psychologist William >> >> James.[1] The various universes within the multiverse are >> >> sometimes called parallel universes. >> >> The structure of the multiverse, the nature of each universe >> >> within it and the relationship between the various constituent >> >> universes, depend on the specific multiverse hypothesis >> >> considered. Multiverses have been hypothesized in cosmology, >> >> physics, astronomy, philosophy, transpersonal psychology and >> >> fiction, particularly in science fiction and fantasy. In these >> >> contexts, parallel universes are also called "alternative >> >> universes", "quantum universes", "interpenetrating dimensions", >> >> "parallel dimensions", "parallel worlds", "alternative realities", >> >> and "alternative timelines", among others. >> >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse >> >> >> >> TRY TO FIND WILLIAM JAMES... I DO NOT THINK THIS WILL BE SO >> DIFFICULT AT ALL >> THE SQUIRREL IS NOT HIDING AROUND A TREE THIS TIME. >> >> The Squirrel was not a hidden tip, it was all over the place at all times. >> >> >> >> Now allow me some remarks. >> >> >> the text you stole from the internet, originates from the hand of Kate Mc >> Alpine, and the 23 year old chicka works at cern(lhc) >> she has a habbit of stealing content on the internet, rephrasing it in her >> own words and relaying it to the press , according to the >> "FAKE IT UNTIL YOU MAKE IT" principle, you took it by cut copy and paste, >> rephrased it in some of your own distorted insights >> according to "THE FAKE IT UNTIL YOU MAKE IT PRINCIPLE", and thinking >> nobody will ever know, problem is of course , a lie nested within other >> lies. >> >> You should really check your sources better , Before stealing from thiefs >> and raping their stolen products into a happenstance. >> >> Exactly how the fuck can you fuck it up that mach, as the only intelligent >> cristian thinker on the forum? (besides DMB) >> >> I was laying it out on the line all the time, the squiireltips.....William >> James, the hunter, kept on repeating it... >> the multiversum deviates from the many worldsinterpretation, but the link >> was a tip towards william James......i kept on feeding it >> while you were making your article Ham... >> >> >> How the fuck does he do that?.....happenstances originating from >> nottingness. >> (joke) >> >> Honestly, very dissapointing , stealing is a sin, raping is a sin,lying is >> a sin, what a sinner you are.what a fraude... >> This is only one of the bugs, i can kill all others to, the article is >> full of it. >> >> do i have to go on? >> greetz, Adrie >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2010/9/16 Ham Priday <[email protected]> >> >>> >>> On 15 Sep 2010, at 19:51, Steven Peterson <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi John, Horse, Marsha, >>>> >>>> I hesitate to conclude that Hawking is a moron since there is so much >>>> evidence to the contrary. >>>> >>>> What I hope he means by "philosophy is dead" is that philosophy as >>>> Plato's project of getting beyond appearances to get us in touch with >>>> reality as it really is has run its course and outlived its >>>> usefulness. If so, I think Pirsig and any pragmatist would agree. On >>>> the other hand, what I suspect he does mean is that science has proven >>>> itself to be the one true way of getting us in touch with reality as >>>> it really is. I suspect that he thinks scientific descriptions have >>>> some privileged status over other sorts of descriptions. ... >>>> >>> >>> I think your analysis is right on, Steve. Leonard Mlodinow, a science >>> journalist who knows Hawkin has published a best-selling book on his >>> theories of reality called "The Grand Design." I heard him interviewed on >>> Coast-to-Coast AM last night and thought you might like to review this >>> summary of the discussion prepared by the show's host George Noory. >>> >>> "Caltech physicist Leonard Mlodinow discussed his current work with >>> Hawking on the grand design of the universe and two central questions-- >>> where does the universe come from, and why are the laws of nature what they >>> are? Hawking's theories and the latest research in physics were used to >>> answer those questions. While the conditions for life are just right on >>> Earth, Mlodinow noted that we're looking backwards at the situation-- >>> whatever conditions it took for us to get here, have already happened. >>> >>> "The notion of the multiverse (many universes each with their own >>> physical laws) is a consequence of Hawking's theory of cosmology, said >>> Mlodinow. These various universes arose from nothing, but we now understand >>> from quantum theory that the state of nothingness is actually very unstable, >>> and that "things are always coming and going from nothingness," he >>> explained. Hawking's picture of the universe incorporates three theories: >>> >>> ". A 'no boundary' condition in which time becomes a dimension that looks >>> like space. >>> . M theory-- an extension of string theory dealing with forces like >>> gravity. >>> . Top Down Cosmology-- a new quantum approach that suggests the cosmos >>> has many different simultaneous histories. >>> >>> "Mlodinow also reviewed the Big Bang theory of the origin of the >>> universe, and the search at the Large Hadron Collider for the theoretical >>> Higgs boson particle. Interestingly, Hawking has predicted that the Higgs >>> particle will not be found." >>> >>> For all his alleged brilliance, Hawkin apparently believes the universe >>> (or "multiverse") was created from nothing, despite its 'Grand Design'. >>> When Mlodinow was asked several times if he (and Hawkin) believed there was >>> a Creator of the Grand Design, he dismissed the question as "one way of >>> thinking," for the unsophisticated. His reaction was the same when asked if >>> he thought life had any purpose. >>> >>> In short, the Hawkin-Mlodinow team is promoting the view that conscious >>> life and the ordered physical universe are mere happenstances that arose >>> from the chaos of nothingness. They are unwilling to even speculate on a >>> principle to explain existential reality. For the life of me, I can't >>> fathom a writer choosing the title "The Grand Design" if he doesn't >>> acknowledge a Designer. (But perhaps the Pirsigians here view it >>> differently.) >>> >>> Anyway, it provided a fascinating look into the scientific mindset. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Ham >>> >>> >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> parser >> > > > > -- > parser > -- parser Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
