Some comments on The Ham, JC, Hawking defacement scenery John Carl aan moq_discuss
details weergeven 02:01 (17 uren geleden) Greetings, Ham, It's nice to have a simpatico interest. I too caught that on coast to coast. Eschewing the tube, I'm naturally hooked on radio... On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Ham Priday Steve: I suspect that he thinks scientific descriptions have > > some privileged status over other sorts of descriptions. ... >> > > Ham: > I think your analysis is right on, Steve. Leonard Mlodinow, a science > journalist who knows Hawkin has published a best-selling book on his > theories of reality called "The Grand Design." I heard him interviewed on > Coast-to-Coast AM last night and thought you might like to review this > summary of the discussion prepared by the show's host George Noory. > > "Caltech physicist Leonard Mlodinow discussed his current work with Hawking > on the grand design of the universe and two central questions-- where does > the universe come from, and why are the laws of nature what they are? > Hawking's theories and the latest research in physics were used to answer > those questions. While the conditions for life are just right on Earth, > Mlodinow noted that we're looking backwards at the situation-- whatever > conditions it took for us to get here, have already happened. > > John: And yet Hawking claims philosophy is dead? > "The notion of the multiverse (many universes each with their own physical > laws) is a consequence of Hawking's theory of cosmology, said Mlodinow. > These various universes arose from nothing, but we now understand from > quantum theory that the state of nothingness is actually very unstable, and > that "things are always coming and going from nothingness," he explained. > Hawking's picture of the universe incorporates three theories: > > ". A 'no boundary' condition in which time becomes a dimension that looks > like space. > . M theory-- an extension of string theory dealing with forces like > gravity. > . Top Down Cosmology-- a new quantum approach that suggests the cosmos has > many different simultaneous histories. > > "Mlodinow also reviewed the Big Bang theory of the origin of the universe, > and the search at the Large Hadron Collider for the theoretical Higgs boson > particle. Interestingly, Hawking has predicted that the Higgs particle will > not be found." > > For all his alleged brilliance, Hawkin apparently believes the universe (or > "multiverse") was created from nothing, despite its 'Grand Design'. When > Mlodinow was asked several times if he (and Hawkin) believed there was a > Creator of the Grand Design, he dismissed the question as "one way of > thinking," for the unsophisticated. His reaction was the same when asked if > he thought life had any purpose. -------------------------------------------------------------- > > John: well, I say consider the source on that one. Ask somebody who's drinking wine and getting laid regular if life has any purpose. Not some gnat in a knot. COMMENT , Adrie sorry to say it , John, but this is the point were our ways separate. It is a deliberate and malicious choice to make fun about a man in a wheelchair wearing a diper, and clearly in need , physically. But in fact it is not Hawking that is shitting upon himself, and drewling all over the place , it is you , and by free and malicious choice. you are talking about one of the most important people of the world. -------------------------------------------------------------- Ham: > In short, the Hawkin-Mlodinow team is promoting the view that conscious > life and the ordered physical universe are mere happenstances that arose > from the chaos of nothingness. John: sigh. More moronists. The world is full of them. ------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT Adrie, clearly you have no idea how true this is, you are the proof. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Ham: COMMENT Adrie, here you and ham are both doing the same in group, by association. This is a choice made in advance, this is clearly orchestrated. quite funny to whitness in the background scenery, that platt is chiming in to ASS -ociate himself with this fraudulant behaviour, cristianity at its best. --------------------------------------------------------------- > They are unwilling to even speculate on a principle to explain existential > reality. For the life of me, I can't fathom a writer choosing the title > "The Grand Design" if he doesn't acknowledge a Designer. (But perhaps the > Pirsigians here view it differently.) > >--------------------------------------------------------------- John: I've always maintained that anybody who names a book "a brief history of time" and does so non-ironically, is an ass and a philosophical cretin. And I bet I could whip him in a game of one on one, as well. --------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT Adrie djeezzzz, this is the view of a visionair, clearly ready to encounter Hawking on his work on Black hole's and the embedded informationparadox, Tell me John at this level,it becomes difficult to me, even for Stephen btw, But can you work out the answer on the question, made by the paradox, i level out with you, i will give you his e-mail adress, so you can whip him out in a game of one on one , as well. But PLEASE, do not forget to post Hawking's answer on your solution, and his remarks on this list to show us all how you were able to whip him out in a game of one on one. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole_information_paradox Don't be shy!!I can hardly wait. Okay, here we go, [email protected] I give you a tip, as an old friend, let Ham help you, i have no problem with that. Ham: > Anyway, it provided a fascinating look into the scientific mindset. > > John: Yes. Sigh again. Good to hear from you, Ham. John -- parser Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
