nice reply. i do not own a conquered field of knowledge, but the field of knowlegde is asking to be conquered. for the little details, wiki shows very little contamination or distortion, btw , i worked on a lot of pages But i use a pen name; maybe i will tell you all about it sometime, i see a lot of improvement in your postings.
I still remember a conversation you made about the bees , the county's providing support for bee-keeping and stuff still remember i liked it , very native, pure.Stay good Marsha. i took note of your points. 2010/9/18 MarshaV <[email protected]> > > Adrie, > > Please note that the address to the full text for both book reviews and > response were available for further research. I was misleading no one. > > > Marsha > > > > > > On Sep 18, 2010, at 12:51 PM, ADRIE KINTZIGER wrote: > > > so what i meant to say , marsha, is that your article lead is leading > people > > to things like this > > We really need to stay in tune with all off this material , Marsha, i > really > > think we need to pay attention. > > If whe start stepping over details, we have no case, we cannot go to the > > forrest if there are no trees. > > > > > > Quote ANT PIRSIG, > > Ant: > > Yes, I think it is, though I’m not too sure about the “illusion” part; > > “appearance” might be a better word. Anyway (in the context of the > > SODV paper), this is what Pirsig wrote to me about space: > > “I have thought about Bell’s theorem and what it might mean for > > the MOQ and so far have concluded that this theorem is just more of > > the same subject/object mess. ‘Local’ and ‘non-local’ presume a > > physical space. Physical space is a subjective intellectual pattern, > > which is presumed to correspond to an objective inorganic pattern. > > These patterns are so entrenched they are some of the last to disappear > > during the enlightenment process, but before pure Dynamic Quality is > > understood they must go. The ‘nothingness’ of Buddhism has nothing > > to do with the ‘nothingness’ of physical space. That’s one of the > > advantages in calling it ‘Quality’ instead of ‘nothingness.’ It reduces > > the confusion.” (Letter to Ant, June 1st 1996) > > > > > > > > shit , i forgot to EXALT it a little bit > > > > > > 2010/9/18 ADRIE KINTZIGER <[email protected]> > > > >> EMPHASED!! > >> > >> 2010/9/18 ADRIE KINTZIGER <[email protected]> > >> > >> "Exalt , well , no, i emhased it virtually to show the point that > article's > >>> like this contain > >>> falsifications 'an sich' embedded or by association with occult > science. > >>> > >>> -concider it or don't, well, leads like this are taking other people > >>> towards the article without pointing out > >>> towards the conflicting matters. probably you were not aware of this , > and > >>> probably people following the lead > >>> are not , but leaving a part out of its contexts in this way is > dangerous > >>> and arose my suspicion. > >>> > >>> And of course , no , i am not a physician, i never said i was , i work > in > >>> a car factory,with my hands. > >>> But i'm better than a shitload of them.I was studying all the books you > >>> see, and i think its a good idea > >>> for you to do so, this is encouraging. > >>> Its not a very good idea to jump over the material. > >>> > >>> Like the Bell's theoreme,one has to be aware of all this kind of > >>> contamination. > >>> > >>> Greetz, the log lady, Burps! > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> 2010/9/18 MarshaV <[email protected]> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> Adrie, > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I've posted a lot of stuff. Consider it or don't. Maybe the book > >>>> will arrive today, and I will have more to post. > >>>> > >>>> By the way, are you a physicist? And why you exalt what > >>>> you point out? I don't. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Marsha > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Sep 18, 2010, at 11:13 AM, ADRIE KINTZIGER wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> But you forgot the rest of the article Marsha > >>>>> > >>>>> I isolated a part from the article further on as i am very good in > >>>> Nonlocal > >>>>> &local reality's. > >>>>> > >>>>> comment on isolated part > >>>>> > >>>>> Their treatment of two-slit interference ranks right up there with > (but > >>>>> differs interestingly from) Feynman’s famous “comes in lumps” > approach, > >>>> and > >>>>> their nontechnical description of Bell’s theorem is one of the best > >>>> I’ve > >>>>> seen, and by far the least mathematical. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> 3 problems > >>>>> trying to ridicule Feynman is not a very good idea, this is adressed > at > >>>> the > >>>>> autor. > >>>>> > >>>>> The Bell theorem. > >>>>> The theorem is specifically rejected by most of the scientifical > >>>>> world,because its a limp home formula. > >>>>> it is under controverse since it was stated.Its rubbish. > >>>>> > >>>>> MR PIRSIG, specifically rejects the theoreme, in one of his > annotations > >>>> on > >>>>> LILA'S CHILD,in a earlier stage of history. > >>>>> He recognised very early that it was crap, and i happen to agree with > >>>> him > >>>>> and 99% of science. > >>>>> PIRSIG rejects it for a reason, this is very easy to find back. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Nb, i was already pointing out in a conversation with Mr Buchanan, > some > >>>> time > >>>>> ago, that PIRSIG rejects the theoreme > >>>>> It is still to be found back in the archives, or in the > >>>> annotations > >>>>> made upon LILA. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> this is only 1 leech to kill, there are more in the article... > >>>>> sincerely yours , Pontius PILATUS, landlord of judea, the man on the > >>>>> mountain. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> 2010/9/18 MarshaV <[email protected]> > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> from American Journal of Physics Review of Quantum Enigma: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Take space-time, for example. We organize our perceptions into > events, > >>>> and > >>>>>> for many purposes it is illuminating to represent those events as > >>>> points in > >>>>>> an abstract four-dimensional continuum. This is so useful that most > of > >>>> us > >>>>>> reify this abstract scheme, believing that we inhabit a world that > is > >>>> such a > >>>>>> four- (or, for a few of us, ten-) dimensional continuum. The > >>>> reification of > >>>>>> abstract time and space goes so far back in human history that it’s > >>>> easy to > >>>>>> miss the intellectual sleight of hand. The reification of electric > and > >>>>>> magnetic fields is more recent but also came to be taken for > granted, > >>>> until > >>>>>> it started to unravel (for some of us) with the arrival of quantum > >>>>>> electrodynamics. The strongest hints of how we have been fooling > >>>> ourselves > >>>>>> emerge when we try to reify quantum states, and thereby run into > “the > >>>>>> measurement problem” and “quantum nonlocality.” > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> http://quantumenigma.com/reviews-our-responses/ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ___ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list > >>>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > >>>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > >>>>>> Archives: > >>>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > >>>>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> parser > >>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list > >>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > >>>>> Archives: > >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > >>>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ___ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list > >>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > >>>> Archives: > >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > >>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> parser > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> parser > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > parser > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > -- parser Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
