Marsha: Reification is represents my reasoning for labeling intellectual static patterns of value a product of subject/object thinking. The 'reifying carrots' thread I have presented many examples, primarily Buddhist, but also others, explaining the process. Here is one such example:
"How do we deal with the complexity of experience? Well, we 'seek and find, or project, a simplifying pattern to approximate every complex field ... by lumping (ignoring some distinctions as negligible) and by splitting (ignoring some relations as negligible). Both ... create discreet entities useful for manipulating, predicting and controlling ... [but] may impose ad hoc boundaries on what are actually densely interconnected systems and then grant autonomous existence to the segments' (p. 108). Even the contents of our own consciousness have to be dealt with in this way, resulting in our array of fragmented self-concepts, and we just put up with the anomalies that arise. Buddhism, he explains, agrees that discovering entities is conventionally indispensable, but attachment and aggression arise through reifying them, which violates the principle that all things are interdependent, and all entities are conditional approximations." http://www.westernbuddhistreview.com/vol4/buddhism_and_science.html Also value is good, so nothing is neglected. You stated my definition of the patterns in the Intellectual Level neglected the good, but all value/quality is good so your accusation is bogus. On Sep 18, 2010, at 10:02 PM, X Acto wrote: > I guess I feel you should quit trying to give reasonable explanations > when you in fact refuse to have reasonable conversations. > > you feel the way you do, > > and your reasons are your own. > > so what > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: X Acto <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sat, September 18, 2010 9:57:51 PM > Subject: Re: [MD] Intellectual Level > > if the intellectual level is s/o thinking > > and that is the way the mind functions > > then the mind neglets value in your opinion > > by it's very nature. > > which I disagree with. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: MarshaV <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sat, September 18, 2010 9:53:47 PM > Subject: Re: [MD] Intellectual Level > > > > value is good, nothing neglected > > > > On Sep 18, 2010, at 9:08 PM, X Acto wrote: > >> Your formulation of the intellectual level neglects the good. >> >> all are aware of the good. all reality springs from it. >> >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
