Ham to Andre: If we can stop playing 'Pirsig says' long enough to consider just what "observation" means in this context, I think we must conclude that the 'observer' is primary to the observation. I'm not talking about "before and after", but about the entity whose experience does the observing and is cognizant of the object experienced. Not everyone has experienced this object, so it is surely not a universal image.
Andre: What you are saying here Ham are (literally) intellectual observations after the event. I still tend to think that you want the positing of an independent observer, an independent object and the 'something' that 'happens' between the two without any 'primary' connection. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
