To clarify on my position, Mark, i spook very easily when religion is
mentioned
as a widget to insert in science.
The common grounds are the field of progress,evolutive
thinking,model-dependant
realism,pragmatism, radikal empiricism, common sense,etc.
If we re-launch questions about the value's of the gospel,we will end up
talking like mormon's
in the end.

To stay coherent, these are some of the questions raised by the topic,...
-Is thinking allowed,?needs it to be guided by science or religion,who are
the guides?
-are the guides to be found on youtube, on this forum,science, the lines of
Pirsig's work...
-etc..., is progress a good guide or a dead end?..

Adrie



2010/10/29 118 <[email protected]>

> Hi Andrie,
>
> Would you call questioning the premises of science irrational?  Sounds to
> me
> like a rational inquiry.  Who makes the rules on what is rational?  How
> would you describe spiritual rationality?  If attacking rationality
> rationally is a problem, then how should it be done?  Where does the root
> lie?  Please identify it so that we can converse on common ground.
>
> Some questions for you.  And, please stay coherent.
>
> Cheers
>
> Mark
>
> [Andrie before]
>
> Hi , Dave, yes , these words are wisely chosen.
> Implausible,incoherent and dishonest.
> The guy is a fraude.It is impossible to make progress by criminalising
> progress itself.
>
> If you like to compare the used demagogy with some demagogy here, the root
> of rationality
> comes to mind, on the question to expand the 'root' of rationality
> The answer is to attack rationality itself, deviating the possible answers
> to a field that
> stays away from the root of rationality.
>
> Theresienstadt-arguments really.
>
> good reflections , Thanks, Adrie
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