[Arlo] Evolution doesn't just occur for whole societies, it goes on in individuals too. The MOQ says that a society dominated by intellectual values is absolutely superior to one that does not. This goes for individuals too. In fact, you can't really separate them. To have a society guided by intellectual values, we first need people to be guided by intellectual values. And yet right here, where everyone should be able to see that, we have folks who think science and intellect and philosophy IS the problem. As they see it, rationality doesn't HAVE a problem. It doesn't HAVE a flaw. To them, intellect IS the flaw. And the people who believe this, what are they pushing? Religion, intelligent design, free-market capitalism, reactionary politics, the denigration of science and scientists, anti-academic attitudes, and the occasional bout of bigotry. They're pushing social level values and so intellectual values are threatening. So instead of correcting the defect in the intellect, they define the intellect as the defect itself. Like Arlo said so long ago, they've confused the patient with the disease
[Mark] Which intellectual values are you choosing? Yours? Perhaps they are flawed. If you had lived many years ago, you'd be one of those expounding on the flat earth and criminalizing anyone who thought differently, because the science of the time did not support it. The denigration is happening from your side as well. You can keep pushing your values, but they sound a bit trivial at this point. If you fear for intellectual values, then they must be shaky indeed. I think you are attacking a straw man. The questioning of science is just as intellectual as the supporting it, maybe even more so because it dismisses faith in Scientism. Intelligence takes its own course, it is not controlled by the likes of you or me. Your automobile does not have an attached steering wheel. Keep spinning it. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
