Thanks for your reply Dan, It tells me alot about how you think and feel about Quality without going back and forth about the confusion over central terms.
To me, static betterness are those generalizations of betterness that do not go poof, that repeat and are consistant in experience. Such as health, food, clothing clean air, clean water and shelter to name a few. To me a consistant collection of those basic prefferences compose a static pattern of value. They are preferences that make life better. Thank you for your answer, it reveals a great deal. best, Ron ----- Original Message ---- From: Dan Glover <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, October 30, 2010 9:13:06 PM Subject: Re: [MD] BeTteR-neSs (undefined or otherwise) Hello everyone On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 7:16 PM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hello everyone > > On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 9:34 AM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote: >> All, >> >> What is betterness? what does it mean to you? >> >> RMP states there are four kinds of betterness. > >> Which of those four do you value the most? > > Hi Ron > > I am not sure that I follow you... what four kinds of "betterness" > does RMP state, and where does he state this? > > Dan comments: > > "Better" can apply to anything, so how can there be only four kinds? > Aren't we developing a rigidity by saying so? > > Ron: > Hello Dan, > I mean inorganic, organic, social and intellectual betterness. > Unless you do not think Quality and betterness have the same meaning. Dan: No, not in this context. You are talking about static patterns of value. Dynamic Quality is what's better. It is what drives static quality patterns towards "betterness," an undefined "somethingness" that isn't a thing at all. Once defined, it is gone... poof. Like a puffy white cloud in a clear blue summer sky... now it is here, now it is not. Where does it come from, and where does it go? It is a meaningless question. It is not a place at all. We are using intellectual concepts to point to that which is beyond conception. How can there be four when there isn't even one? >X: > I tend to think of them as having a sameness in meaning. > > which can be another topic altogether. Dan: I recall a discussion with Paul Turner along these lines that was never really resolved, at least not in my mind. I am not sure it can be. >X: > what does Quality mean to you? Dan: Quality is experience. There are many ways of ordering experience. So far, the MOQ provides the clearest, most expansive answers to my way of thinking. I like the way it is presented. Its sense of marrying the mystic to the mundane appeals to me. The congruence of art, science, and religion are made clear in a way I was not aware of before. Thank you, Dan Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
