Dan said:
We cannot think of Dynamic Quality as a mover. Dynamic Quality must be kept
concept-free.
Mark replied:
Why is this? What puts DQ out of the bounds of metaphysics? By labeling
Dynamic Quality as concept free, aren't you pointing towards a concept? How do
you get around this, by not talking about it? Are you suggesting that we
should not discuss DQ? If DQ is concept free, what is it besides concept free?
Please explain, I thought we were discussing concepts.
dmb says:
DQ can't be defined because the term refers to experience prior to
conceptualization. It is direct and immediate awareness, the empirical reality
you know before you can think about it. Obviously, definitions are not
pre-conceptual. To define something is to put limits on it. To distinguish one
idea or thing from another requires distinctions, the drawing of lines and
borders. But DQ is undivided experience or pure experience or undifferentiated
experience.
This is the first and most basic distinction in the MOQ. This is the DQ/sq
split. There is no way to properly understand the MOQ without first grasping
the distinction between concepts (static quality) and reality (Dynamic
Quality).
"Mystics will tell you that once you've opened the door to metaphysics you can
say good-bye to any genuine understanding of reality. Thought is not a path to
reality. It sets obstacles in that path because when you try to use thought to
approach something that is prior to thought your thinking does not carry you
toward that something. It carries you away from it. To define something is to
subordinate it to a tangle of intellectual relationships. And when you do that
you destroy real understanding. The central reality of mysticism, the reality
that Phaedrus had called "Quality" in his first book, is not a metaphysical
chess piece. Quality doesn't have to be defined. You understand it without
definition, ahead of definition. Quality is a direct experience independent of
and prior to intellectual abstractions. Quality is indivisible, undefinable and
unknowable in the sense that there is a knower and a known, but a metaphysics
can be none of these things. Ametaphysics must be di
visible, definable, and know able, or there isn't any metaphysics. Since a
metaphysics is essentially a kind of dialectical definition and since Quality
is essentially outside definition, this means that a "Metaphysics of Quality"
is essentially a contradiction in terms, a logical absurdity." (Lila, chapter 5)
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