Hey Ham, [Ham] > You are stating propositions that contradict my ontology, so I assume you > are formulating your own. That's fine, but I can't comment meaningfully on a > paradigm that is foreign to me. All I can say is that if difference is > primary, Essence is divided, which is inconsistent with the absolute > Not-other. If Quality is not relative, then man is not "the measure of all > things" and "some things are better than others" is an invalid maxim. Do > you see the problems you are creating for yourself? >
[Mark] No, this was just a sidetrack, to play around with perspectives. I am not sure if contradict is the right term. Just looking at it from the other side, perhaps just a different perspective of the same thing. I would agree that one could deduce that man is not the measure of all things. I do not have a problem with that notion. What makes something better may not be up to man. In fact, the degree of control of the subjective is still open to interpretation, or rational creation. If Quality is primary, this does not divide Essence, it just gives it a different name. By stating that there is somethingness and nothingness this also creates division, no matter how much you negate it, you still need a negator. Springing into existence doesn't just happen, at least not according to rational thought. Now, prerational thought is another thing altogether. I was looking into prerational thought since it seemed to coincide with Pirsig's pre-intellectual awareness. I got to some interesting sites that I am still digesting. To much information!! And yes, you are right, I am still working on your ontology. I was reading the mechanical garden again, but then got sidetracked into Principia Cybernetica, which I guess is no longer around. But I was curious on how to make a computer into a philosopher. Anyway, I'm getting back on board, and the ball is still in my court. What is it love-love? I'm going to get some new balls, hold on. Mark > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
