Hi Arlo, Just sent off a post to answer your last question. I am fully familiar with the paper mill that academia forces on professors. It is the number of publications that matter, not the quality. Talks and seminars is part of a static network, kind of a back scratching exercise. The feedback of students is minimal in the research institutions (which are all the top ones). There are many brilliant researchers who are terrible teachers. Student feedback is more prevalent in city colleges.
I do not think there should be tenure, and that professors could be fired at any time. The notion of intellectual qualities is based on static deliveries. If one gets a lot of money for a grant, he/she may not be necessarily intellectual, but will get the praise of the institution. Number of publications is no measure of intellect, but rather how many post-doctoral students are available and how easy the discipline is for getting publications. Break throughs are typically accidental and not a matter of intelligence. This whole concept of intellect is static, which is why we are bringing this subject up. Intellect should be measured and refreshed on a monthly basis. How well are you doing with the research, what kind of break throughs have happened? Typically once a grant is funded, it is refunded for a while. I know that some are trying to change this. But this is like trying to control the salaries of congress, when they decide their own salary raises. Not even the president can stop this, he is not the boss. Mark On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 4:26 PM, ARLO J BENSINGER JR <[email protected]> wrote: > [Mark] > Do you think continuing tenure is based on intellectual qualities? > > [Arlo] > Different institutions have different criteria for tenure. Many require a > certain number of publications, often based on performing a certain number of > research projects. Some consider the frequency of talks or seminars the > candidate has performed. Some require a certain number of courses be taught, > and of these all I know weigh heavily student feedback and course evaluations. > > What do you think tenure is based on, and what would you suggest it be based > on > instead? > > Why do you not feel any of the above measure "intellectual qualities", and > what > measures would you suggest instead? > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
