On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 6:16 PM, david buchanan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Arlo said to Mark:
> As I said, I could easily fill many posts with examples of how disciplines 
> have evolved over time within the Academy. I am hard-pressed to find a single 
> one that has remained unchanged by new ideas for the last one-hundred years. 
> Can you?
>
> dmb says:
> If a theory lasts for a hundred, it's probably a pretty good theory with many 
> refinements. The theory of natural selection would be an example of such a 
> powerful, long-lasting theory. But science is all about discovery. That's why 
> most of them do it, that's what most experiments are aimed at. I think the 
> idea that intellectuals are inherently dogmatic is just bizarre. Ripped from 
> today's news....

[Mark]
I guess this would make the theory of the Christian God pretty powerful.

>
> Gerald Joyce, a chemist and molecular biologist at the Scripps Research 
> Institute in La Jolla, Calif., said the work “shows in principle that you 
> could have a different form of life,” but noted that even these bacteria are 
> affixed to the same tree of life as the rest of us, like the extremophiles 
> that exist in ocean vents. “It’s a really nice story about adaptability of 
> our life form,” he said. “It gives food for thought about what might be 
> possible in another world.”
> Dr. Sasselov said, “I would like to know, when designing experiments and 
> instruments to look for life, whether I should be looking for same stuff as 
> here on Earth, or whether there are other options. “Are we going to look for 
> same molecules we love and know here, or broaden our search?”
>
> Do these guys sound like they're defending dogma? Or do they seem excited, or 
> maybe even a bit thrilled, at the prospect of new options and new food for 
> thought?

[Mark]
These guys sound excited.  I wish there were more like them.
>
> If I were to make a suggestion, I'd go after the money. Funding has become a 
> corrupting influence in the sciences because the search for truth becomes the 
> search for profitable knowledge, which isn't the same thing at all. It turns 
> the church of reason into a whore house.

[Mark]
Yes, I am with you there in terms of money and corruption.  Funding is
not mostly for profit in the Universities.  I think the search for
profitable knowledge is at the dynamic edge of Quality.  What people
want, what could have more Quality?  I do not think that people want
things of lower Quality.  Sometimes governments do since they are
power hungry, whatever keeps them in power is what interests them.
All governments.  I don't choose one over the other.  I am against all
authority.
>
>
Cheers,
Mark
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