dmb said:
... We should be able to move forward knowing that Pirsig and James are
offering Pragmatism and Radical empiricism as an alternative to those things
[representationalism, correspondence, Platonism]. In that sense, we all share
the same enemy. By transferring Rorty's anti-Platonism into this context, you
just end up making enemies where there aren't any, see?
Steve said:
That's not the issue. You've got it twisted. Matt and I obviously don't see
Pirsig and James as enemies. Far from it. The issue is that you seem to see
Rorty and anyone else as an enemy who doesn't embrace the terms "direct" or
"pure" or "primary" with regard to experience.
dmb says:
Huh? If you are not refusing to embrace Pirsig's terms for anti-Platonic
reasons, then what reasons do you have? And if you're refusing to embrace
Pirsig's anti-Platonism because of Rorty's anti-Platonism, then how is that not
a mix up?
I'm saying that you and Matt have no legitimate anti-Platonic reasons to reject
those terms. Seriously, what OTHER reason can you cite? If Platonism isn't the
problem with those terms, then what is the problem?
And may I remind you that these terms refer to Quality? If you refuse to accept
those terms, you've rejected the whole MOQ in a very big way. So I don't think
this issue is at all trivial.
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