[Marsha previously] In my definition of the Intellectual Level, grammar, mathematics and logic represent the intellectual rules for manipulating reified objects of analysis.
[Arlo responded] All of which have nothing to do with "SOM", except those patterns that derive from a particular fundamental division of the world (such as idealism, etc.) [Marsha again] Pirsig uses the term ‘subject-object metaphysics’ (SOM) for any metaphysics (explicitly or implicitly) that perceives reality as either mind and/or matter such as idealism, materialism, and dualism." (MoQ Textbook) [Arlo] Right. And it has nothing to do with "grammar, mathematics and logic", it has to do with "any metaphysicas that perceives reality as either mind and/or matter, such as idealism, materialism, and dualism." You can repeat your quote all you want, it proves my point, and that Bo was wrong. Thanks. "A subject-object metaphysics is in fact a metaphysics in which the first division of Quality - the first slice of undivided experience is into subjects and objects." (LILA) Precisely. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
