Andre:
Same thread, completely different topic. Yes, the MD is in a bit of a
state and I welcome any 'moderation'. It is suggested by some on this
discuss that Horse's admonitions are some sort of plot forged by 'the
fits', the oldies, the conservatives, the squares, the
Pirsig-is-holy-don't-touch-him brigade to undermine and indeed sabotage
the contributions of the 'misfits' (quite an unfortunate term).
It reminded me of something I am reading at the moment. I'll quote:
'This was what was keeping me awake at night,' Walter said.'This
fragmentation. Because it's the same problem everywhere. It's like the
internet, or cable TV- there's never any center, there's no communal
agreement, there's just a trillion little bits of distracting noise. We
can never sit down and have any kind of sustained conversation, it's all
just cheap trash and shitty development. All the real things, the
authentic things, the honest things are dying off. Intellectually and
culturally, we just bounce around like random billiard balls, reacting
to the latest random stimuli'.(J.Franzen 'Freedom' a novel,p218)
Someone asked of dmb in a recent post what the purpose is of being here
and also questioning what it means to be 'reasonable'.
My take on this is that we are here to discuss Robert Pirsig's MOQ and
no-one else's! Reasonable discussion is a discussion based around his
metaphysics to work towards some sort of 'communal agreement' and
furthering our understanding of Pirsig's MOQ. Reasonable is also being
open to and accepting of contrary evidence and being persuaded by it
should it provide high quality explanatory power in relation to what we
are discussing here.
This is what the so called old guard is asking. Getting away from this
superficial, you-tubing, twittering zap culture. The assertiveness with
which some contributors keep on insisting to impress their take on
Pirsig's MOQ has gotten out of reasonable proportion. Richard Bandler
once said that assertiveness is a preparation for loneliness. I think he
is right if the assertiveness becomes unreasonable.
The center of this MD is Pirsig's MOQ. Not anyone else's.
I fully support Horse in taking whatever action necessary to get the
discussion focused and relevant.
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