Marsha; My heart is aching for the people in Japan. I don't get the hype from television, but I have been paying attention to events posted on the Internet, and it is all awful beyond words. It is so awful it is hard to believe it is really happening, yet I know it is. The question 'Why?' sticks in my throat and I choke. It is unbearably awful.
Andre: I'm going to be a real bastard here Marsha but your sentiments are just hypocritical and unbelievably false! And I'll ram the reason right down your throat, since for you 'all static patterns of value, even those in the MoQ, are ever-changing and interdependent'. How can you be so concerned and feel so 'unbearably awful' when the situation in Japan meets all your convictions of what sq 'really' is. As dmb and Dan and others have continuously pointed out to you, this 'view' of 'ever-changing' things isn't helping anything or anybody. Confusing DQ with sq makes an awful mess of things. Why has it such an impact on you? Because your static patterns have been upset? This should be a normal state of affairs for you! Sorry but I thought you would not know what that means... stability...stable patterns of value... NO!they are ever changing for you. This is what Pirsig's MOQ is about. It is what LILA is about. He'd said enough about DQ (as he explains at the end of Chapter 9) and turned his attention to sq and developed the 5 moral codes out of this ... as a guide for, among other things, right action and yea, also right grieving. Stable patterns give us things to hold on to. Things we cherish and love and care for and can care about. Without stability this would not be possible. I apologize immediately Marsha because I do think you are genuinely upset but, for goodness sake let your experience inform your theory with consistency. Static patterns as ever-changing makes them frivolous and illusory. This may have been the conviction of the Indian professor at Benares University answering Phaedrus' query about the reality of Hiroshima and Nagasaki but Pirsig's MOQ is of a different quality. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
