Marsha,
Tell me something (useful) that I don't know.
Ian

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 10:32 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Hi Ian,
>
> On Mar 31, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Arlo Bensinger wrote:
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>> "In fact, when proposed that I could perhaps interpret ZMM and Lila in a way 
>> different from some, this was also met with incredulity.  Any good book has 
>> multiple interpretations, and nobody has rights to the correct 
>> interpretation." (Marsha)
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>
>
> This quote is not something I ever stated.  Arlo is mistaken when
> citing me at its source.  Another 'oops' mistake.
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>
>
> Marsha
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> On Apr 1, 2011, at 4:59 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
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>> Arlo, Mark, Mary, Marsha, DMB,
>>
>> Mary called it an "entre" I call it between a rock and hard place.
>>
>> Mark said to Arlo "Get a grip".
>> I have to say I've had that sentiment in this (and similar) thread for a 
>> while.
>>
>> And the others interpreted each others quotes. thus :
>>
>> Arlo quoted Marsha:
>> "In fact, when proposed that I could perhaps interpret ZMM and Lila in
>> a way different from some, this was also met with incredulity.  Any
>> good book has multiple interpretations, and nobody has rights to the
>> correct interpretation."
>> Arlo said:
>> ... I think a sentiment like "it's all interpretation" is readily
>> evident. In a world where nobody has rights to the correct
>> interpretation, please tell me how Ron's "interpretation" of Pirsig's
>> MOQ supporting rape and torture would be dismissed?
>>
>> dmb says:
>> I guess Marsha thinks that interpretive freedom means never having to
>> answer any criticism. It means you don't have to worry about making
>> sense. Imagine how much work that would save! How how lonely that
>> would be.
>>
>> Ian says, I just want to bring this debate up a level, it's all so
>> interpersonal, and as Mary suggests you have to question people's
>> motives in the twisted sarcsasm before even looking at the words and
>> the subject matter.
>>
>> Ian
>> What's so funny 'bout ....
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>>
>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 6:18 AM, Mary <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hello Arlo,
>>>
>>> Pretty late for me on a 'school' night, but your excellent post deserves a
>>> response - quickly.
>>>
>>> [Mary]
>>> I disagree with your interpretation of Bo's interpretation.
>>>
>>> [Arlo]
>>> I can tell by this start, that we are going to be in a big disagreement.
>>> This sort of "everything is interpretation" type thinking (and no, that is
>>> not a quote of anyone) is really faulty, and I argue is very stuck in pure
>>> subjectivism.
>>>
>>> [Mary now]
>>> Of course it is stuck in subjectivism.  Absolutely!  Remember, I am one who
>>> thinks the Intellectual Level is SOM all the way, for all of us, all the
>>> time.  I happen to think that anyone unwilling to admit that is kidding
>>> themselves - and I see you, DMB, Andre, and Dan kidding yourselves daily
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