Hi Ham, > Anthony McWatt, who is regarded here as the "official interpreter" of > Pirsig's MoQ, explains Dynamic Quality thusly: > > "Dynamic Quality is the term given by Pirsig to the continually changing flux > of immediate reality while static quality refers to any concept abstracted > from this flux. Pirsig equates Dynamic Quality with F.S.C. Northrop's > 'indeterminate aesthetic continuum' which refers to the divine in experience > and can only be understood properly through direct apprehension. Hence the > use of the term "dynamic" which indicates something not fixed or > determinate." --[A. McWatt: 'Pirsig's Metaphysics of Quality'] > > Now a "continually changing flux" that is "not fixed" and is also described > as an "aesthetic continuum" indicates motion or progession to me, especially > as it relates to four levels of an evolutinary heirarchy. So I don't know > why you think my "interpretation of ordinary MOQ is strange." How do YOU > interpret it?
Does a Pirsig quote trump an Anthony McWatt one? "Unfortunately 'static' and 'Dynamic' have a meaning in physics that refers to space and time and motion and this can be confused with the static and Dynamic of the MOQ" - Lila's Child. > They ancients weren't talking about "quality"; they were describing an > immutable deity. Since empirical reality is "defined", perhaps "undefined" > would be a more suitable label for what Pirsig confusingly calls "Dynamic > Quality". I think you may have an argument here but I'm yet to be sold. >> All metaphysical ideas are capable of empirical verification. >> You're trying them on right now. Are they any good? > > I don't know whose metaphysical ideas you have in mind, but empirical > verification cannot be applied to concepts that transcend the physical (i.e., > experiential) world. Nor do I make such a claim for the tenets of > Essentialism. > > In short, David, you haven't convinced me that anything I said is wrong. You try on someone else's ideas all the time Ham. These words that I am speaking now. Are they mine? Did I invent these words? Of course I didn't and yes I'm still testing them to see how well they fit reality. Maybe one day a new word will come along that describes things better and I'll use that. And on and on. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
