Ham had said:
> "Any philosopher who insists that existence precedes essence
> has made Being his fundamental reality.  Essentialism takes the
> opposite view: Being is an experiential construct of essential Value."
> 
> Ron:
> Which is the classic struggle between rationalism and empiricism.
> You are attempting to make rationalist arguments regarding the
> empirical point of view. So far, you have not been doing very well.
> 
> To be more clear, the philosopher who insists experience precedes
> essence has made Being his fundamental reality.
> The philosopher who insists Being is a construct of essential value
> has made an idea his fundamental reality.

Ham:
Which demonstrates why "rationalists" (by which I assume you mean semioticists) 
are unable to conceptualize beyond the written word.  The "idea" that I have 
postulated is a conception of reality, not a rational argument based on artful 
wordplay.

Ron:
Every postulated conception of reality is a rational argument Ham, how well 
that 
argument
is made may include a bit of artful wordplay, an expert taste like yourself 
would surely recognize
the power of persuasion.

Ham:
I'm "not doing very well" in conveying this concept because "radical 
empiricists" who disguise their empirical ontology under the Quality umbrella 
are unwilling to acknowledge a non-relational source for
the appearance of Being.  They're still wondering how a universe made of 
Quality 
arises from nothingness.

Ron:
Well small wonder, of course empiricists are unwilling to aknowledge a 
non-relational source
and the abstract concept of nothingness does not exist in experience making it 
a 
non-question
to the empiricist.

Still not making a great arguement sorry to say.


      
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