Greetings, Joe --

Nice to hear from you again. According to my records, we haven't talked since December of 2009 when you began to find my ontology "humorous". I was trying to market a serious book on philosophy at the time, and the comic attribution wasn't helpful. But except for a brief exchange on 'the perennial philosophy' in May, 2010, you seem to have disappeared until now.

On Apr 4, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Joseph Maurer <[email protected] wrote:


Hi Ham and all,

"uncreated, undifferentiated, and unchanging" denies DQ/SQ.
The Metaphysics connected to dq/sq is about undefined/defined
levels in existence not levels in imagination.  DQ exists in levels of
evolution.  SQ is the manifest evolution in the order in existence.

Imho Joe

"Undefined/defined levels in existence" may be a division of the MoQ, but "levels" do not constitute the primary division in metaphysics. As the philosophy of reality, metaphysics aims at a doctrine that accounts for the division between the fundamental source and the defined particulars, between absolute potentiality and relational actuality. Evolution and process are attributes of space/time existence, as are cause/effect and the subject/object (selfness/otherness) dichotomy. Since what is manifest is defined, there are no "undefined levels" in existence. Manifested "levels of evolution" is how we define the order of existence, not the primary source from which existence is actualized.

I don't know what "levels in imagination" refers to, as all levels are definable and there are no levels in my ontology. However, I'm in agreement that unconditional reality (Essence) is incompatible with your interpretation of DQ/SQ.

Essentially speaking,
Ham


On 4/4/11 10:45 AM, "Ham Priday" <[email protected]> wrote:
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The transitional world we live in is differentiated into solids, liquids and gases; animals, vegetables and minerals; and a multiplicity of objects, all of which can be defined and described. We call this our "reality" and Mr. Pirsig calls it a "subject-object metaphysics". But, to borrow from Hegel,
it's really a world of "appearances".  Underlying these appearances is a
fundamental Reality that is uncreated, undifferentiated, and unchanging.

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