Hi Joe, You present an interesting interpretation of undefined. I am not sure if you are being sarcastic, clever, or some kind of divine being.
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Joseph Maurer <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Dan and all, > > How can I know the undefined? Metaphysics! I know the undefined only as > DQ, not DQ/SQ. When I write about the undefined I am speaking to myself, > and hope your words to yourself have a similar orientation. > > DQ at any level is indefinable. Is there an emotional level? DQ has to > hide somewhere. Those bugger emotions have to hide somewhere. They even > make my eyes water. [Mark] For something to be ineffable does not mean that it is hidden. Far from that. Undefinable simply means that there are no words to define it. > > Logic is not useless e.g. mathematics. The intellectual level DQ/SQ evolves > from an emotional level, DQ only. So says Joe! [Mark] The fundamental from which mythos arises is the direct interaction of the brain with the environment. This could be termed the emotional, sad as it may seem. From the mythos comes the intellect. There is refining and simplifying all the way along. Evolution happens in jumps, much in the same way that the levels can be differentiated by purpose. I think it is important not to confuse the Intellectual Level with the intellect. There is a big difference. The societal level should not be confused with the people who make up the society. Our conscious level should not be confused with the group of neurons which allow its expression. Etc. Etc. > > The intellectual level is DQ/SQ, in a logic of one, e.g., mathematics. The > emotional level captures indefinable individuality in the levels in > existence, evolution. Emotions, the manifestation of DQ in existence. 1 > the manifestation of DQ/SQ. > > Evolution is indefinable intellectually and present in indefinable > emotions. [Mark] There is emotional intellect, and intellectual emotion, two different things. > > Emotions bring Joy and sorrow to my awareness, DQ only. Emotions are > constrained by experience in the perception of evolution. However, the > intellect DQ/SQ is constrained by a higher logic of 1, mathematics, beyond > the true, good, in the emotions. [Mark] Logic requires differentiation. One cannot have logic in unity without comparing it to something else. That is why we have Quality, so that we can express logic. > > Dq/Sq is restrained to the logic of 1, mathematics The individual, at the > intellectual level, is a higher level than the DQ emotional, indefinable > concepts, tears, which are widespread in a large population, SQ! > [Mark] Hmmmm.... Come again? You mean higher like in drugs? > Emotions DQ, are a level in existence, evolution. I am aware emotionally in > levels in existence. I evolve and speak intellectually from levels in > existence. > [Mark] I suppose that is better than thinking you are non-existent like some Buddhists do. Cheers, Mark >> > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
