On Apr 14, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Arlo Bensinger wrote:

> [Marsha]
> They are both static value, on what basis are you differentiating?   You 
> point doesn't make sense to me from a MoQ perspective.
> 
> [Arlo]
> On the same basis I differentiate between "Arlo says" and "The chair says". 
> One speaks, one does not.
 

Marsha:
The chair does not represent an intellectual static pattern of value.   


> [Arlo]
> Yes, "The MOQ" and "Pirsig" are both patterns of value. But this does not 
> mean the both say things.  

Speaking is a static pattern of value interrelated to the collection of 
patterns named "Pirsig.  The understanding 
of a person being a collection of static patterns of value needs some 
investigation.   Go and comprehend...    


> [Marsha]
> Conventionally, the MoQ speaks to me.  It did from the first time I read LILA.
> 
> [Arlo]
> Figuratively, the MOQ spoke to you. Conventionally, it was Pirsig speaking.

Marsha:
Figuratively?  You're stretching... ;-)  


> [Marsha]
> Your interpretive legitimacy argument seemed like a red herring to me.  I 
> have no dog in that circus act.
> 
> [Arlo]
> If only that were true.

Marsha:
It is conventionally true.   


 
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