Hello everyone On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:50 PM, John Carl <[email protected]> wrote: > Past is a static pattern. As static as they come! What is more unchanging > than the past?
Dan: The past is changing all the time, John. It is changing right now as we add to it. >John: > But the future? We use the word to point to something that brings into > being, but our imagining is never fully the reality we actually experience. > The future as an idea is one thing, but the future as a thing is too > mysterious for words, and just like I've always thought of DQ, in every > way. What is evolution but the drive toward the future? Try it. Go back > and substitute the concept of the future, for all references to DQ in Lila, > and show me one that doesn't fit. Dan: Okay: "When A. N. Whitehead wrote that "mankind is driven forward by dim apprehensions of things too obscure for its existing language," he was writing about [The Future]. [The Future] is the pre-intellectual cutting edge of reality, the source of all things, completely simple and always new. [The Future] was the moral force that had motivated the brujo in Zuni. [The Future] contains no pattern of fixed rewards and punishments. [The Future's] only perceived good is freedom and its only perceived evil is static quality itself-any pattern of one-sided fixed values that tries to contain and kill the ongoing free force of life." Dan comments: As you see, it makes very little sense to say the future is the moral force that motivated the Brujo. It makes very little sense to say the future is the pre-intellectual cutting edge of reality since to be reality it has to exist. And the future doesn't exist. The future is an idea we project based on our static quality history. It totally destroys what RMP is saying, in my opinion. >John: > It even works better with Jamesian pragmatism - what is the test of the > good? Future experience. Dan: And just how does one go about testing future experience, John? Are you aware of what you're saying? Dan Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
