Hi Marsha,
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:55 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > John, > > Whatever conventionally works for you is fine for you. I am not here to > change you. But time is a static pattern of value. For me, the past is > story, the future is projection. That doesn't make anything less wondrous, > only less true. > > > Marsha [Mark] I don't think this is what John is pointing at. He is simply changing words to give an appreciation for the same thing (analogy if you will). By saying DQ we are presenting a static "pattern" of value. So, by this logic John is performing static replacement. Now, I believe that we create the past with the present, and are therefore continually changing the story. When thinking of the future we are also doing that in the present and as such, it is not a projection, but a real thing happening right now. Now, that is wondrous indeed. Can't escape the moment no matter how hard you try. Cheers, Mark > > > > On Apr 21, 2011, at 1:50 PM, John Carl wrote: > >> Past is a static pattern. As static as they come! What is more unchanging >> than the past? >> >> But the future? We use the word to point to something that brings into >> being, but our imagining is never fully the reality we actually experience. >> The future as an idea is one thing, but the future as a thing is too >> mysterious for words, and just like I've always thought of DQ, in every >> way. What is evolution but the drive toward the future? Try it. Go back >> and substitute the concept of the future, for all references to DQ in Lila, >> and show me one that doesn't fit. >> >> It even works better with Jamesian pragmatism - what is the test of the >> good? Future experience. >> >> John past >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:15 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi John, >>> >>> Time, past and future, are static patterns. >>> >>> http://www.quantonics.com/Anthony_McWatts_MoQ_Paper.html >>> >>> Or try Nagarjuna's MMK. >>> >>> >>> Marsha >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Apr 19, 2011, at 4:35 PM, John Carl wrote: >>> >>>> So, is DQ just another word for the future? And sq a term for the past? >>> Is >>>> that all there is to it after all this time? >>> >>> > > > > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
