Ron to Marsha: But I am interested in why you feel becoming unattached to value is better considering we are composed of value.It hints at wanting to die rather than wanting to improve your life. what are your reasons for valuing "no value" or becoming unattached to value? you must feel that it is better in some way.
Andre: Just butting in and hoping you do not mind. I think the important issue Marsha is putting forward is that following DQ does imply an effort to die. As far as I understand it it is the ego that must be rid of before anything else and is, in this sense, a precondition for 'following' DQ genuinely and thereby improving 'your life'. In this way the 'idea' of being 'attached' to value is meaningless... 'you' ARE value! Getting rid of ego frees oneself of the 'idea' of being 'attached'. One does not experience 'freedom' but one experiences, as the Buddha said a state of being 'awake'. (which I thought was a pretty good way of putting it...and refers back to my comment to Ham concerning the way these issues are dealt with in the US and the 'Western' world) . See the story in Steve Hagan's Buddhism Plain and Simple, p 7). This, by the way also reinforces Dan's point about freewill, choice and other notions we have of acts of 'freedom'. Pirsig makes this very clear and pragmatic...and mystical. Hope I'm making sense and sorry for the intrusion. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
