Arlo:

>
> So within a MOQ framework, I don't know if I'd say anything like "static
> patterns are illusions", I'd say the opposite, that "static patterns are
> real", its the "S/O" primacy that has defined what "real" meant that is the
> illusion, and saying "patterns are real" is an empirical statement and not
> an existential one.
>
>

John:  I dunno, Arlo.  I'd go along with "static patterns are real", but I'd
add the caveat then, reality is just a convenient illusion.

But then, you know me -

Idealistic John
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