Hello everyone On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:26 PM, John Carl <[email protected]> wrote: > Well Dan, I'm sorry you took such offense, but geez yer a prickly bastard > sometimes.
Yes, I am. As I've admitted to others here, I tend to suffer fools poorly. > I certainly didn't intend any offense, other than good-natured > jibbing which flows out in discourse without me really meaning anything > other than trying to emphasize certain oppositional points. But reading > down, I realize that I think you are wrong in quite a few ways, and it seems > to offend you no matter how I point that out, tactfully or not, if you're > wrong, you feel like a fool and you just plain don't like be made to look > foolish or wrong. So what should I do? Bow down? > > On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Dan Glover <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Look, John, you are the one who started by insulting me. I asked if >> Ron was listening on account of his asking me to explain free will vs >> determinism in terms of the MOQ. And this discussion didn't include >> him. So I was merely being polite in asking if he was listening, or >> reading if you will. >> >> You on the other hand were just being a dick for the sake of being a >> dick. Or so I inferred by your shouting at me. >> > > > I'd like to see what you mean by "shouting". I have no idea what you're > talking about. > Dan comments: > > It is important to see here too the distinction between freedom and > determism as it relates to Dynamic Quality and static quality. Ron? > Are you listening? Dynamic Quality isn't structured yet it isn't > chaos. > > John: Are YOU listening Dan? Dan: That's what I mean by SHOUTING. That doesn't strike me as good-natured jibbing so much as mocking and insulting. And yes, I am sure you think I am wrong. I read in a different post where you say you agree whole-heartedly with Ham... so how can you not think I am wrong. As if Ham knows anything about the MOQ. At least he admits he is pursuing his own agenda. > >> >> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 11:37 AM, John Carl <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Dan, >> > >> > how can I refute such eloquent and well-thought argumentation? >> >> See what I mean? If you want to practice this kind of insulting >> behavior, then direct it somewhere else besides towards me. >> >> Hmmm. You have an interesting take on things Dan. I respond sarcastically > to being called a dick, and you think that's being insulting. Well maybe it > is, but you started it! > > I know you are, but what am I? Whatever. > > > >> I'm not asking for your respect for my metaphysical opinions but a >> little respect wouldn't hurt, if you really want to have a discussion. >> But we've been over all this before, haven't we. >> > > > Sorry Dan, but a little respect only flows from a little clarity and logic. > First you say you're not asking for respect, then you say you are (with the > modifier "little") This is just silly-talk, not at all serious in any > meaningful way, and yet in the past you've accuse me of not being serious. > Me not serious? And you come off spouting off about me being a dick and > then uttering such nonsense as above? Which, btw, which is worse than > meaningless, it's self-contradictory. Context, John, context. Try reading what I wrote for a change. Maybe it'd make sense then. > > Dan: > >> >> I'm not trying, John. > > > John: > > Well maybe you oughta start. Or wtf are you doing here? An intelligent discussion would be nice. Not possible with some people though. > > Dan: > >> Just telling you like it is. >> >> John: > > You always like to think you've got that ole handle on the real reality in > your hip pocket, doncha dan. Good luck with that. Whatever, John. Have it your way. > > > > I won't be responding for a while, I guess. Nothing personal, but I don't > think we have that much to discuss anyway. In that, you're probably right. As long as you're going to act like a brat, you are right. We have nothing to discuss. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
