Well Dan, I'm sorry you took such offense, but geez yer a prickly bastard
sometimes.  I certainly didn't intend any offense, other than good-natured
jibbing which flows out in discourse without me really meaning anything
other than trying to emphasize certain oppositional points.  But reading
down, I realize that I think you are wrong in quite a few ways, and it seems
to offend you no matter how I point that out, tactfully or not, if you're
wrong, you feel like a fool and you just plain don't like be made to look
foolish or wrong.  So what should I do?  Bow down?

On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Dan Glover <[email protected]> wrote:

> Look, John, you are the one who started by insulting me. I asked if
> Ron was listening on account of his asking me to explain free will vs
> determinism in terms of the MOQ. And this discussion didn't include
> him. So I was merely being polite in asking if he was listening, or
> reading if you will.
>
> You on the other hand were just being a dick for the sake of being a
> dick. Or so I inferred by your shouting at me.
>


I'd like to see what you mean by "shouting".  I have no idea what you're
talking about.

>
> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 11:37 AM, John Carl <[email protected]> wrote:
> >  Dan,
> >
> >  how can I refute such eloquent and well-thought argumentation?
>
> See what I mean? If you want to practice this kind of insulting
> behavior, then direct it somewhere else besides towards me.
>
> Hmmm.  You have an interesting take on things Dan.  I respond sarcastically
to being called a dick, and you think that's being insulting.  Well maybe it
is, but you started it!

I know you are, but what am I?



> I'm not asking for your respect for my metaphysical opinions but a
> little respect wouldn't hurt, if you really want to have a discussion.
> But we've been over all this before, haven't we.
>


Sorry Dan, but a little respect only flows from a little clarity and logic.
 First you say you're not asking for respect, then you say you are (with the
modifier "little")  This is just silly-talk, not at all serious in any
meaningful way, and yet in the past you've accuse me of not being serious.
 Me not serious?  And you come off spouting off about me being a dick and
then uttering such nonsense as above?  Which, btw,  which is worse than
meaningless, it's self-contradictory.

 Dan:

>
> I'm not trying, John.


John:

Well maybe you oughta start.  Or wtf are you doing here?

Dan:

> Just telling you like it is.
>
> John:

 You always like to think you've got that ole handle on the real reality in
your hip pocket, doncha dan.  Good luck with that.



I won't be responding for a while, I guess.  Nothing personal, but I don't
think we have that much to discuss anyway.  In that, you're probably right.
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