On 5/23/11 10:21 PM, "Ham Priday" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Because it is clear to me that man is the free "value agent" of his
> universe, I remain convinced that existence is essentially an
> anthropocentric system. While many of you see this as a heretical view of a
> philosophy that posits Quality as the sole agency, a valuistic philosophy
> that rejects both the sensible knower and his metaphysical source is not
> plausible to me. On the other hand, if I can effectively show that the
> realization of Quality (Value) presupposes a sensible agent which, in turn,
> necessitates an uncreated source, who can say how this might impact on MoQ's
> future?
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Hi Ham and all,
Try to envision an emotional level in which the individual is indefinable
(no terms capture the reality of individuality since it is indefinable).
Once that vision is secure Posit a definable 1. This is how I see evolution
from an indefinable DQ emotional level to a definable SQ intellectual level.
The emotional level DQ defines 1 and evolution carries this 1 to an SQ
Intellectual level which creates mathematical logic.
IMHO Pirsig conceptualized this in MOQ evolution. I do not, then, have to
accept a realization that Quality (Value) presupposes a sensible agent as
this is just another way to view static quality. Evolution, levels in
existence, is real. An uncreated source is an emotional construct,
indefinable, not a construct of the higher defined intellectual level. Once
consciousness is firmly established, then I can suppose higher emotional,
and higher intellectual levels in consciousness only, no definition
possible, merely an acceptance of higher sources.
Joe
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